Re: [LAU] A good Sampler

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Date: Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 1:22 pm

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> Date: Sun=2C 11 Sep 2011 15:03:56 +0200

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I think pointing somebody at PD who wants a sampler with timestretch is a l=
ittle like telling somebody to learn ancient Greek because they want to kno=
w what the word Synthesis means... Although sure there are some externals f=
or doing timestretch via different methods (granular=2C FFT etc) and if he =
knows the basis already may not be a bad idea.

Unfortunately I don't know anything that fulfils the requirements though. B=
est free library from timestretch I know of is the RubberBand one. This has=
been incorporated into a few programs=2C eq SuperLooper and QTracker=2C bu=
t don't think any of them allow yo to create and play instruments as it sou=
nds like you want. As the library exists I guess we can hope LinuxSampler w=
ill consider incorporating it into their program in the not too distant fut=
ure=2C especially if they see some requests=2C but would hold your breath.

There is StretchPlayer=2C using RubberBand to play single audio streams at =
different pitches=2C which may be a good basis for creating a sampler if yo=
u can code.

Or if Rubberband is too CPU intensive I believe Akaizer is less processor h=
ungry but I may be wrong...

(While Renoise does not have any native timestretch at all it does have scr=
ipted tools for both RubberBand and Akaizer.) I believe both these will onl=
y work offline though=2C but it would be possible to create the note ranges=
as new samples and them create your instrument out of the extra samples. A=
lot more work and will then use a lot more RAM=2C as there is no DFD with =
Renoise=2C but may almost be an idea. But if you are going to create new sa=
mples for each key any sampler would do... But then again you could script =
Renoise to automatically create the new samples=2C rather than having to do=
it all manually.)

Regards and good luck. Dale.
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&gt=3B Date: Sun=2C 11 Sep 2011 15:03:56 +0200&gt=3B From:=
lsutton@libero.it&gt=3B To: linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org&=
gt=3B Subject: Re: [LAU] A good Sampler&gt=3B &gt=3B Hi Jordan and =
welcome=2C&gt=3B &gt=3B On 09/11/2011 02:14 PM=2C Jordan Wade wrote=
:&gt=3B &gt=3B Hello=2C I'm just getting started with creating electron=
ic music in Linux&gt=3B &gt=3B and I'm looking for a good sampler. Spe=
cifically=2C I'm looking for a&gt=3B &gt=3B sampler that will allow me =
to assign a sample to multiple keys AND&gt=3B &gt=3B perform pitch-scal=
ing without changing the duration of the sample. I've&gt=3B &gt=3B tri=
ed Specimen and Renoise (both great pieces of software) but neither&gt=
=3B &gt=3B seems to automatically stretch/compress the duration of the samp=
le to&gt=3B &gt=3B compensate for the pitch shift. I look forward to h=
earing your suggestions.&gt=3B &gt=3B Considering your preamble I w=
ould suggest having a look at Pure Data &gt=3B (aka PD)... although it =
doesn't specifically do what you're asking it &gt=3B would be easy to c=
reate a sampler with those characteristics (wouldn't &gt=3B be surprise=
d if it already existed) and of course much more=2C and as you &gt=3B a=
re getting into electronic music you'll find many situations where &gt=
=3B you'll have to create your own 'tool' for the job. PD might easy this <=
br>&gt=3B task a lot=2C and IMHO is also great fun.&gt=3B &gt=3B Ci=
ao=2C&gt=3B Lorenzo.&gt=3B &gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Thank=
s!&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B _____________________=
__________________________I think pointing somebody at PD who w=
ants a sampler with timestretch is a little like telling somebody to learn =
ancient Greek because they want to know what the word Synthesis means... Al=
though sure there are some externals for doing timestretch via different me=
thods (granular=2C FFT etc) and if he knows the basis already may not be a =
bad idea.Unfortunately I don't know anything that fulfils the requi=
rements though. Best free library from timestretch I know of is the RubberB=
and one. This has been incorporated into a few programs=2C eq SuperLooper a=
nd QTracker=2C but don't think any of them allow yo to create and play inst=
ruments as it sounds like you want. As the library exists I guess we can ho=
pe LinuxSampler will consider incorporating it into their program in the no=
t too distant future=2C especially if they see some requests=2C but would h=
old your breath.There is StretchPlayer=2C using RubberBand to play =
single audio streams at different pitches=2C which may be a good basis for =
creating a sampler if you can code.Or if Rubberband is too CPU inte=
nsive I believe Akaizer is less processor hungry but I may be wrong...<=
br>(While Renoise does not have any native timestretch at all it does h=
ave scripted tools for both RubberBand and Akaizer.) I believe both these w=
ill only work offline though=2C but it would be possible to create the note=
ranges as new samples and them create your instrument out of the extra sam=
ples. A lot more work and will then use a lot more RAM=2C as there is no DF=
D with Renoise=2C but may almost be an idea. But if you are going to create=
new samples for each key any sampler would do... But then again you could =
script Renoise to automatically create the new samples=2C rather than havin=
g to do it all manually.)Regards and good luck. Dale.=

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[LAU] A good Sampler, Jordan Wade, (Sun Sep 11, 12:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Sep 12, 7:33 am)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Renato, (Mon Sep 12, 10:27 am)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Sep 12, 10:38 am)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Sep 12, 10:43 am)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Renato, (Mon Sep 12, 2:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, fred, (Sun Sep 11, 4:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Lorenzo Sutton, (Sun Sep 11, 1:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Dale Powell, (Sun Sep 11, 1:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, David Cornette, (Tue Sep 13, 2:53 am)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Dale Powell, (Tue Sep 13, 11:18 am)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Lorenzo Sutton, (Mon Sep 12, 7:27 am)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, , (Sun Sep 11, 1:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Goran Mekić, (Sun Sep 11, 12:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Jordan Wade, (Sun Sep 11, 12:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] A good Sampler, Philipp Überbacher, (Sun Sep 11, 4:02 pm)