Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?

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On 08/04/2011 04:41 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:

Basically NtED was/is the most promising GUI notation editor for me.
Better then MuseScore (faster, lighter imo). But you need more for an
open source project to be successful. One-man-shows (I don't mean that
disrespectful) are, most of the time, less sustainable then projects
which are able to form a nice community of users and developers around
it. MuseScore is doing a excellent job on that point and the project
gives you a lot of features now. The project seems to have a lot of
support from different kind of people, which gives me, as a user, the
confidence that it will useful for me in the coming years. Personally I
rather learn to use a piece of software if the chances are low that is
will stop/die soon...

Regards,
\r

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On 08/04/2011 04:41 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:25 AM, David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il>
wrote:

My 2 cents:

I use software that does the job. OpenSource is not necessarly
free, just
means one can get the sources and compile it, twiddle the
code, if one so
chooses. Not all musicians can or want to bother with this.
One thing is that
opensource authors are much more accessible and listen to
suggestions. This
has made nted into quite an effective scoring package. Put
down top bucks for
Sibelius, great program but you buy the package, that's it.

I guess I can say that nted has changed my life quite
significantly.
I have been a hobbyist pianist and professionally a teacher of
computer science/programing. Suddenly I am a teacher of
singing mostly teaching people who never imagined they could
read staff notation. (Heres an example: http://vimeo.com/16894001/ 
of how it works)

So much for the good side.

But of late nted keeps crashing/erroring. My recent questions
on the nted list have gone unanswered.  Am I grumbling?  Well
not really. Joerg Anders has done a superb job of making nted
and like all he must have a life outside that also.   But
realistically I would like to know whether development has
died and it would be best for me to cut my losses (about a
hundred hours spent typing in scores) and move to something
else.

On a related note because my ubuntu laptop runs nted it cannot
run pulseaudio.  Because it cannot run pulseaudio no other
audio works.
If we are talking of the state of linux audio maybe a small
mention of the pulseaudio saga would not be out of place?

I could go on but this is a long enough rant :-)

My main point is that this discussion seems to separate
politics/sociology from technical issues.  The reality is
in-between:  I am able to do things thanks to linux and free
software that I could/would not otherwise have imagined.  But
things are very far from 'just working'.
Others may not have such a high 'needs-tweaking' threshold.

Basically NtED was/is the most promising GUI notation editor for me.
Better then MuseScore (faster, lighter imo). But you need more for
an open source project to be successful. One-man-shows (I don't mean
that disrespectful) are, most of the time, less sustainable then
projects which are able to form a nice community of users and
developers around it. MuseScore is doing a excellent job on that
point and the project gives you a lot of features now. The project
seems to have a lot of support from different kind of people, which
gives me, as a user, the confidence that it will useful for me in
the coming years. Personally I rather learn to use a piece of
software if the chances are low that is will stop/die soon...

Regards,
\r

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[LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Aurélien Leblond, (Mon Aug 1, 3:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Lorenzo Sutton, (Sat Aug 6, 6:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Renato, (Fri Aug 5, 4:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Sat Aug 6, 6:21 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sat Aug 6, 4:33 am)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Aug 1, 8:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, S. Massy, (Wed Aug 3, 12:59 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 2:32 am)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Wed Aug 3, 9:01 am)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Aug 7, 7:13 am)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Aug 7, 9:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Aug 8, 3:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Cedric Roux, (Mon Aug 8, 9:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Aug 10, 7:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Aug 16, 6:45 pm)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Simon Wise, (Thu Aug 11, 5:59 am)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Rob, (Wed Aug 3, 5:24 pm)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Rustom Mody, (Thu Aug 4, 2:41 am)
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Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Dale Powell, (Mon Aug 1, 3:56 pm)
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