Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?

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> Date: Wed=2C 3 Aug 2011 11:02:26 +0200

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timbo+kanye both use plenty of software in their music. there aren't very m=
any artists on major labels that are all hardware guys. it is probably true=
that if you paid kanye lots of cash to big up ardour then yeah lots of peo=
ple would go give it a go=2C whether they would stay with it or not is a di=
fferent matter.

as for the dj's=2C well you'd be dragging them back into the stone age to g=
ive them linux systems to tour with=2C some of the latest advances are mind=
blowing. serato and ableton have created something called the bridge so tha=
t whilst using the digital vinyl control system of serato you can also use =
that to control music clips within ableton. so a loop you just created can =
be controlled with vinyl and mixed into any pre-existing tracks you have. a=
gain big name dj endorsements would get people to check things out but unle=
ss those programs are easy to get into+setup then people will demo them onc=
e and go back to whatever they were using.

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&gt=3B Date: Wed=2C 3 Aug 2011 11:02:26 +0200&gt=3B Subject: Re: [=
LAU] An appeal to famous artists?&gt=3B From: pshirkey@boosthardware.co=
m&gt=3B To: simta@hotmail.com&gt=3B CC: linux-audio-user@lists.linu=
xaudio.org&gt=3B &gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Hence I said =
"at best"=2C meaning=2C in the best case scenario some FOSS&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B tools may be functionally equivalent. I think the exception might=
be&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B JACK=2C as the case could be made that it is fun=
ctionally superior to&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B any other inter-application au=
dio and midi routing framework.&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B as good a=
s JACK is=2C it's a little bit of a red herring.&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B=
&gt=3B JACK needs to be as good as it is for any linux audio to be worthwh=
ile.&gt=3B &gt=3B when you have lots of things doing seperate jobs then=
yes you need&gt=3B &gt=3B something like JACK to be able to deal with =
it all.&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B proprietary music software such a=
s cubase/ableton live/protools doesn't&gt=3B &gt=3B need anything like =
that. pretty much everything needed to work is&gt=3B &gt=3B available i=
nside the main program or as a plugin opened inside the main&gt=3B &gt=
=3B program. for anything else rewire suffices and rewire is a hell of a lo=
t&gt=3B &gt=3B easier to deal with than JACK=2C open the master program=
first then the&gt=3B &gt=3B slave and rewire is automatically engaged =
and routing audio/midi between&gt=3B &gt=3B both programs is available =
in the same way you would route tracks inside&gt=3B &gt=3B the program.=
&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B so if you have someone used to being abl=
e to work in such a way then&gt=3B &gt=3B they're going to find it very=
hard to adjust to a very different way of&gt=3B &gt=3B working.&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B time spent learning a whole new way of working =
could potentially kill any&gt=3B &gt=3B inspiration you have.&gt=3B=
&gt=3B &gt=3B And if it is not intuitive for you then you might no=
t want to learn how to&gt=3B use it anyway. But that would change if Ti=
mberland or Kanye went on record&gt=3B to say they had used xxx softwar=
e to get that special sound in their&gt=3B latest album. Highly unlikel=
y though as they tend to use hardware anyway.&gt=3B &gt=3B If a cou=
ple of big name DJ's started touring with Linux systems that might&gt=
=3B make some people think twice.&gt=3B &gt=3B &gt=3B --&gt=
=3B Patrick Shirkey&gt=3B Boost Hardware Ltd&gt=3B timbo+ka=
nye both use plenty of software in their music. there aren't very many arti=
sts on major labels that are all hardware guys. it is probably true that if=
you paid kanye lots of cash to big up ardour then yeah lots of people woul=
d go give it a go=2C whether they would stay with it or not is a different =
matter.as for the dj's=2C well you'd be dragging them back into the=
stone age to give them linux systems to tour with=2C some of the latest ad=
vances are mindblowing. serato and ableton have created something called th=
e bridge so that whilst using the digital vinyl control system of serato yo=
u can also use that to control music clips within ableton. so a loop you ju=
st created can be controlled with vinyl and mixed into any pre-existing tra=
cks you have. again big name dj endorsements would get people to check thin=
gs out but unless those programs are easy to get into+setup then people wil=
l demo them once and go back to whatever they were using.=

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[LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Aurélien Leblond, (Mon Aug 1, 3:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Lorenzo Sutton, (Sat Aug 6, 6:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Renato, (Fri Aug 5, 4:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Sat Aug 6, 6:21 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sat Aug 6, 4:33 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, fred, (Mon Aug 1, 9:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Aug 1, 8:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, S. Massy, (Wed Aug 3, 12:59 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 2:32 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 2:59 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Wed Aug 3, 9:01 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Thu Aug 4, 10:00 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Aug 4, 12:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Aug 7, 7:13 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Simon Wise, (Sun Aug 7, 10:09 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Aug 7, 9:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Aug 8, 3:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Cedric Roux, (Mon Aug 8, 9:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Aug 10, 7:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Aug 16, 6:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Simon Wise, (Wed Aug 17, 2:19 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Aug 16, 8:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Wed Aug 17, 2:43 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Wed Aug 17, 7:24 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Wed Aug 17, 8:19 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Wed Aug 17, 5:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Wed Aug 17, 10:49 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, hermann, (Wed Aug 17, 8:24 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Aug 8, 9:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Aug 10, 7:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Thu Aug 11, 8:45 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Thu Aug 11, 5:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Wed Aug 17, 7:21 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Simon Wise, (Thu Aug 11, 5:59 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Thu Aug 11, 5:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Tue Aug 9, 8:11 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Simon Wise, (Mon Aug 8, 2:14 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Aug 7, 7:46 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Sun Aug 7, 11:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Aug 9, 12:28 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Tue Aug 9, 8:13 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Aug 9, 11:28 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Tue Aug 9, 6:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Aug 9, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Wed Aug 10, 6:38 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Gwenhwyfaer, (Tue Aug 9, 5:50 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, hermann, (Tue Aug 9, 6:01 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Tue Aug 9, 8:16 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, hermann, (Sun Aug 7, 8:20 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, fred, (Sun Aug 7, 10:52 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Aug 7, 9:41 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Aug 7, 9:53 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Aug 7, 8:02 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Aug 7, 7:39 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Aug 7, 8:09 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Thu Aug 4, 1:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Thu Aug 4, 10:23 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Thu Aug 4, 10:49 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Thu Aug 4, 11:30 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Thu Aug 4, 11:46 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Thu Aug 4, 12:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Thu Aug 4, 1:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Fri Aug 5, 9:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Simon Wise, (Thu Aug 4, 10:45 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Wed Aug 3, 9:20 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, James Morris, (Wed Aug 3, 12:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, michael noble, (Wed Aug 3, 4:36 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, S. Massy, (Wed Aug 3, 8:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Hartmut Noack, (Wed Aug 3, 3:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 7:13 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, michael noble, (Wed Aug 3, 7:35 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, sim a, (Wed Aug 3, 8:51 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Wed Aug 3, 5:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 9:43 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, sim a, (Wed Aug 3, 10:17 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Rob, (Wed Aug 3, 5:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Renato, (Wed Aug 3, 6:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Rob, (Wed Aug 3, 7:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Renato, (Wed Aug 3, 8:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Hartmut Noack, (Wed Aug 3, 9:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Dave Phillips, (Wed Aug 3, 6:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 10:48 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, sim a, (Wed Aug 3, 1:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Thu Aug 4, 10:34 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Thu Aug 4, 6:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, sim a, (Wed Aug 3, 9:15 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Harry van Haaren, (Thu Aug 4, 11:44 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Aug 3, 8:11 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, David Baron, (Mon Aug 1, 8:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Rustom Mody, (Thu Aug 4, 2:41 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, rosea grammostola, (Thu Aug 4, 9:29 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Oon-Ee Ng, (Thu Aug 4, 3:07 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Rustom Mody, (Thu Aug 4, 3:40 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, fred, (Thu Aug 4, 5:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Simon Wise, (Thu Aug 4, 8:09 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Thu Aug 4, 8:45 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, hermann, (Thu Aug 4, 5:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Thu Aug 4, 7:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, hermann, (Thu Aug 4, 8:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, david, (Fri Aug 5, 4:55 am)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Dale Powell, (Mon Aug 1, 3:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?, Renato, (Mon Aug 1, 3:38 pm)