Re: [LAU] Limiters?

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Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011 - 9:00 pm

On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 06:17:55PM +0200, Gabbe Nord wrote:

> I'm on a ardour 2.8.11-setup and I'm looking for the best possible limiter.

Every time I read a post like this (no offense intented to the
poster), there is this desire creeping up my back to write a
decent peak limiter, or just release the things I already have.

What stops me is the simple fact that by doing that I'd be
contributing to the IMHO completely misguided and even stupid
fashion of increasing the apparent loudness of recordings by
any means, at the expense of sound quality. Simple fact is this:
if it isn't loud enough, turn up the volume. The result will be
vastly superior to what you can achieve by squeezing dynamics
to death.

Regarding ScalingLimiter, I wonder how many peope are actually
aware of what it is doing. Which is to measure the peak level
of segments delimited by zero crossings and then apply a
constant gain factor to each segment to adjust its peak level
to close to the maximum. The idea seems to be that changing gain
at a zero crossing doesn't introduce distortion. Which is wrong,
it does generate gross amounts of intermodulation distortion,
just having less HF energy than when switching gain at random
points. This makes a complete joke of whatever follows in the
reproduction chain - you could as well use the worst amplifier
(in terms of IM distortion) you can find and things wouldn't
sound any different.

Ciao,

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[LAU] Limiters?, Gabbe Nord, (Sat Jul 9, 4:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, plutek, (Sun Jul 10, 2:48 am)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Fons Adriaensen, (Sat Jul 9, 9:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Ken Restivo, (Mon Jul 11, 5:08 am)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Roberto, (Mon Jul 11, 7:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Hartmut Noack, (Sun Jul 10, 10:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Gabbe Nord, (Sat Jul 9, 9:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Folderol, (Sat Jul 9, 9:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Julien Claassen, (Sat Jul 9, 9:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Fons Adriaensen, (Sat Jul 9, 9:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, S. Massy, (Mon Jul 11, 7:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Jul 11, 9:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Folderol, (Mon Jul 11, 7:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Arnold Krille, (Mon Jul 11, 8:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, S. Massy, (Mon Jul 11, 9:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Arnold Krille, (Mon Jul 11, 9:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Hartmut Noack, (Mon Jul 11, 8:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Folderol, (Mon Jul 11, 8:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, fred, (Mon Jul 11, 9:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, fred, (Mon Jul 11, 8:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Ken Restivo, (Mon Jul 11, 5:25 am)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Joe Hartley, (Mon Jul 11, 2:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Arnold Krille, (Sun Jul 10, 3:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jul 10, 4:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Arnold Krille, (Sun Jul 10, 5:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jul 10, 8:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Hartmut Noack, (Sun Jul 10, 9:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 10, 9:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Jul 11, 6:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Ken Restivo, (Mon Jul 11, 5:30 am)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Renato, (Mon Jul 11, 10:16 am)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Paul Davis, (Mon Jul 11, 12:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Hartmut Noack, (Sun Jul 10, 10:37 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Julien Claassen, (Sat Jul 9, 9:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Ricardus Vincente, (Sat Jul 9, 9:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] Limiters?, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Sat Jul 9, 9:34 pm)