Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?

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Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011 - 7:47 pm

2011/7/2 rosea grammostola :

I don't think so.
But there is still missing the single, all inclusive package.

By introducing liblilv and libsuil, and the rest of his work,
David Robillard already did a great job reducing dependencies.

Both, VST and LV2, have midi+audio IN and OUT.
The problem in the conversion process likely is the GUI,
but for applications as Pianotec, which use a cross-platform-GUI-library (juced)
that should not be difficult to handle.

> On the other hand, it questionable whether this is the best strategy to

That's not questionable: Linux has to be as good as possible OOTB
for media and audio to be successful, because that is a very large and important
sector, for users (pro and non-pro) (TV,DVD,games,audio,production,etc..)

IMO, the pro- and non-pro nonsense was introduced, in order to sell
trash to the masses (at a very low price, though).
For software, especially open source, we don't need that distinction,
that's my conviction at least.
Many so called "pro-user" enjoy simple and accessible interfaces,
while a "non-pro" can became "pro" quickly and any time, if he/she progresses,
requiring dedicated features then, if time passes.

There is no simple solution, but I'm convinced that good GUI
can both: offer diversity and hide complexity.

> I am very happy having Pianoteq for Linux

Me too, even though it's closed src.

> .. it would we very hard to come up with something

I believe, that everything is possible with open source.
But the community has to be large (maybe larger)
and has to actively (and financially) support the projects of their interest.
My current impression: The LAU and LAD community is *very* active,
but still very small (compared to closed audio world).

>> I think having good native VST

IMO no. We need OOTB, reliable LV2.

> But on the other hand, I enjoy my Pianoteq version *very* much ...

Don't worry.
Applications serious with Linux support *will* support LV2.
That's what their customers use, that's what they want.

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[LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Sun Jun 26, 2:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Jeremy Salwen, (Mon Jun 27, 9:00 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Mon Jun 27, 9:38 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Jeremy Salwen, (Mon Jun 27, 10:13 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Mon Jun 27, 10:49 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Jeremy Salwen, (Fri Aug 5, 4:13 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Hartmut Noack, (Mon Jun 27, 7:55 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Jun 26, 7:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Mon Jun 27, 9:52 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, allcoms, (Sun Jun 26, 7:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Jun 26, 7:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Dave Phillips, (Sun Jun 26, 3:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Mon Jun 27, 9:50 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Sat Jul 2, 2:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Jul 2, 5:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Sun Jul 3, 1:43 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Rui Nuno Capela, (Wed Jul 6, 8:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Wed Jul 6, 10:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, rosea grammostola, (Sat Jul 2, 4:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Sat Jul 2, 4:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Philipp Überbacher, (Sat Jul 2, 7:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, James Stone, (Sat Jul 2, 8:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Philipp Überbacher, (Sat Jul 2, 11:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, rosea grammostola, (Sat Jul 2, 8:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, david, (Sat Jul 2, 8:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Philipp Überbacher, (Sat Jul 2, 11:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sat Jul 2, 7:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, rosea grammostola, (Sat Jul 2, 6:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sat Jul 2, 7:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sat Jul 2, 9:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sat Jul 2, 9:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Harry Van Haaren, (Sat Jul 2, 10:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, rosea grammostola, (Sat Jul 2, 9:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jun 26, 3:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Mon Jun 27, 9:42 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, allcoms, (Sun Jun 26, 3:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Sun Jun 26, 3:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, allcoms, (Sun Jun 26, 3:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Mon Jun 27, 1:15 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, allcoms, (Mon Jun 27, 8:33 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, Leigh Dyer, (Mon Jun 27, 9:21 am)
Re: [LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?, allcoms, (Mon Jun 27, 9:34 am)