Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!

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Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 7:11 am

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Hey all,

So the continuing saga is this: still no luck getting Pianoteq with JACK to
equal or spank with superiority the performance of PianoTeq w/ALSA alone on
my system.....

I found the following information: the info from the /proc/asound output
that Paul asked me to check out confirmed that at comparable settings, JACK
choked where ALSA smoked. I had ALSA down to a period of 64 and 3
periods/buffer (hardware bufsize of 192) at a sample rate of 48000. The same
setting of jackd ('jackd -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r48000 -p64 -n3 -S') didn't agree
with Pianoteq....

So...here's my dilemma. I have a live show coming up where I'd prefer to use
the superior harpsichord sound of Pianoteq, but I don't want to risk a
lock-up or xruns or worse in a live concert. So I would have to use
ALSA...BUT....I also need to switch to playing a live kalimba through some
Csound effects right after playing a harpsichord, and Pianoteq under ALSA
will not stand for another app opening and sharing the soundcard like JACK
will allow (ALSA will block I/O).

So what can I do?

Best,
AKJ

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Aaron Krister Johnson
wrote:

> Hi all--

--
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org

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Hey all,So the continuing saga is this: still no luck g=
etting Pianoteq with JACK to equal or spank with superiority the performanc=
e of PianoTeq w/ALSA alone on my system.....I fou=
nd the following information: the info from the /proc/asound output that Pa=
ul asked me to check out confirmed that at comparable settings, JACK choked=
where ALSA smoked. I had ALSA down to a period of 64 and 3 periods/buffer =
(hardware bufsize of 192) at a sample rate of 48000. The same setting of ja=
ckd ('jackd -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r48000 -p64 -n3 -S') didn't agree =
with Pianoteq....
So...here's my dilemma. I have a live show coming u=
p where I'd prefer to use the superior harpsichord sound of Pianoteq, b=
ut I don't want to risk a lock-up or xruns or worse in a live concert. =
So I would have to use ALSA...BUT....I also need to switch to playing a liv=
e kalimba through some Csound effects right after playing a harpsichord, an=
d Pianoteq under ALSA will not stand for another app opening and sharing th=
e soundcard like JACK will allow (ALSA will block I/O).
So what can I do?Best,<=
div>AKJOn Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:40=
AM, Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@akjmusic.com> wrote:
Hi all--I'm wonderi=
ng if anyone else has experienced this:I'm co=
nsidering purchasing PianoTeq, but I wanted to try the demo. It seems to wo=
rk better with just the alsa driver than it does with jack, a reversal of t=
he usual situation.

I tested this several times by playing fast glissandi o=
n the default piano preset. Each time, my little EEE-PC netbook under jack =
choked with xruns and a brief silence while PianoTeq 'reset' itself=
, but Alsa alone chugged away with no xruns unless there was an extreme amo=
unt of load....

I'm wondering if anyone can comment on this. It see=
ms odd, especially since the jack developers claim jack adds no latency by =
itself to the picture in any situation---so, do we have a situation where t=
he code is better written for the alsa driver than for jackd? It seems we d=
o, in this case....

Best,AKJ-- Aaron Krister Joh=
nsonhttp://www.ak=
jmusic.com

http://www.untwelve.o=
rg

-- Aaron Krister Jo=
hnsonhttp://www.a=
kjmusic.com
ht=
tp://www.untwelve.org

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[LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Sun Jun 12, 7:40 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Sun Jun 19, 8:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Tue Jun 14, 7:11 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jun 14, 11:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Paul Davis, (Tue Jun 14, 11:30 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Lorenzo Sutton, (Wed Jun 15, 8:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jun 14, 12:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Gerhard Zintel, (Tue Jun 14, 11:14 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Jeremy Jongepier, (Tue Jun 14, 7:28 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Tue Jun 14, 7:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Jeremy Jongepier, (Tue Jun 14, 8:00 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Paul Davis, (Sun Jun 12, 1:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Atte André Jensen, (Sun Jun 12, 9:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Sun Jun 12, 4:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Paul Davis, (Sun Jun 12, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Mon Jun 13, 12:31 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Paul Davis, (Mon Jun 13, 1:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Mon Jun 13, 7:08 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Mon Jun 13, 7:06 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Robin Gareus, (Mon Jun 13, 9:54 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Igor Brkic, (Sun Jun 12, 12:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jun 12, 9:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Jun 12, 9:59 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jun 12, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, James Warden, (Sun Jun 12, 10:47 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jun 12, 12:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Sun Jun 12, 5:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jun 12, 6:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jun 12, 12:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, rosea.grammostola, (Sun Jun 12, 9:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Aaron Krister Johnson, (Sun Jun 12, 4:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!, Paul Davis, (Sun Jun 12, 8:21 pm)