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If you are planning on releasing your work as CCBYSA the it really isn't an

issue. They do have a nice service if you want to get your music out into

the world.

On May 18, 2011 4:32 AM,  wrote:

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>> Am 18.05.2011 05:59, schrieb Rob:

>>> On Tuesday 17 May 2011 17:07, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:

>>>> On 05/17/2011 10:50 PM, Folderol wrote:

>>>>> One of the issues I see with sites like Soundcloud is that in the fin=

e

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>>>>> print they basically claim the right to use your work how they like,

>>>>> for as long as they like.

>>>> SoundCloud allows you to put a license on your tracks. CC licenses are

>>>> legally valid so if SoundCloud would use any CC BY NC SA licensed trac=

k

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>>>> for commercial purposes they have a problem.

>>>

>>> Most likely, you're agreeing to give them those rights regardless of ho=

w

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>>> you might be licensing your works for other people's consumption throug=

h

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>>> their servers. It's a moot point, though, since their terms also

>>> include

>>> these:

>>>

>>> "USER irrevocably waives the right to assert any claim against

>>> SOUNDCLOUD

>>> or any of its respective parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors,

>>> assigns, employees, agents, directors, officers or shareholders in

>>> relation

>>> to the Content generated, uploaded, transmitted or otherwise used on

>>> SOUNDCLOUD=E2=80=99s Website or Services, including, but not limited to=

,

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>>> copyright,

>>> trademark, unfair competition, invasion of privacy, breach of contract

>>> or

>>> breach of confidentiality."

>>>

>>> TLDR: Even if we violate this agreement, you agree you can't sue us for

>>> it.

>>> Or anyone we do business with, pretty much.

>>

>> Thanks a lot for that explanations.

>> Very helpfull :-)

>>

>

> On the flip side they would create a lot of bad faith by doing that so

> this is just a protection against litigious elements who would seek to

> bring them down by tying them up in unending court cases. Companies like

> Microsoft, Avid, Oracle, etc...

>

> Soundcloud provide an excellent service otherwise.

>

> I support them and have even paid them money to host my tracks. A whole

> , wow!

>

> It would be handy if everyone who used my services gave me .

>

>>>

>>> So, no, I don't see myself using Soundcloud for my music.

>>>

>>> Rob

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