Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?

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From: cal <cal@...>
To: <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 10:23 pm

On 28/04/11 07:08, Julien Claassen wrote:

Just a couple of thoughts from the perspective of the "bear of very little brain" behind yoshimi:

- the FUSE idea isn't entirely without merit, but I really don't want to know about it in terms of
implementing anything along those lines within the synth

- OSC is "loose" by definition. However desirable, the notion of "one spec to bind them all"
is doomed to fail. Every second developer will encounter enough exceptions in their particular
app to justify non-compliance.

- one of the many links floating by in previous discussion was .
I haven't looked into those tools closely yet, but just reading the blurb gives a good idea of the problem
space in play here. There will always be a need for mapping the OSC control set of one app or device
to the control set of the app or device being controlled.

- strictly speaking, RDF isn't an XML format. XML is just one of a number of data formats supported by
the RDF libs. Last year I went through the tedious exercise of converting yoshimi to use turtle format
fot it's data storage (via raptor) instead of xml. State of health plus the sheer scope of the testing
exercise led me to put all of that on the "Not now!" shelf. Some of that work looks like being
recyclable when it comes to putting OSC control into yoshimi.

That's all I can think of for now.

cheers, Cal
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[LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Fri Apr 15, 10:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, M Watts, (Sat Apr 16, 10:52 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Joel Roth, (Sat Apr 16, 2:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Sat Apr 16, 11:17 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Sat Apr 16, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Sat Apr 16, 7:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Sun Apr 17, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Sun Apr 17, 4:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Mon Apr 18, 12:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Tue Apr 19, 7:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue Apr 19, 12:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue Apr 19, 4:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Tue Apr 19, 8:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue Apr 19, 8:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Tue Apr 19, 10:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue Apr 19, 10:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Tue Apr 19, 11:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed Apr 20, 8:49 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Wed Apr 20, 12:24 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Wed Apr 20, 1:01 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed Apr 20, 8:54 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Wed Apr 20, 7:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed Apr 20, 8:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Thu Apr 21, 2:19 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 29, 5:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 29, 11:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Tue May 3, 8:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 3, 8:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Mon May 2, 1:38 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Mon May 2, 2:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu May 5, 11:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Fri May 6, 11:19 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri May 6, 11:45 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri May 6, 9:49 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri May 6, 10:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Fri Apr 29, 5:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 29, 5:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 29, 7:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Fri Apr 29, 7:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 29, 8:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Fri Apr 29, 8:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 29, 9:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Mon May 2, 1:55 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Mon May 2, 2:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Tue May 3, 8:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 3, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 3, 8:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Wed May 4, 12:18 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed May 4, 9:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Wed May 4, 1:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed May 4, 3:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Sun May 8, 4:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Wed May 4, 2:00 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Wed May 4, 1:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Wed May 4, 1:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Wed May 4, 6:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed May 4, 6:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Wed May 4, 2:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Thu May 5, 1:53 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Thu May 5, 2:00 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 3, 9:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 7:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Thu Apr 21, 12:05 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 8:40 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Thu Apr 21, 10:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 11:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 11:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, david, (Thu Apr 21, 8:19 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 9:28 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Arnold Krille, (Thu Apr 21, 11:04 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Thu Apr 21, 10:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Arnold Krille, (Thu Apr 21, 11:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 10:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Wed Apr 27, 8:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed Apr 27, 9:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Thu Apr 28, 3:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 28, 5:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Thu Apr 28, 8:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Fri Apr 29, 7:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 29, 10:52 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, cal, (Wed Apr 27, 10:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Folderol, (Thu Apr 28, 8:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Thu Apr 28, 8:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, david, (Thu Apr 28, 8:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Thu Apr 28, 2:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 28, 8:14 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Fri Apr 22, 2:34 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Cedric Roux, (Fri Apr 22, 7:22 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Fri Apr 22, 8:13 am)
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Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Paul Davis, (Fri Apr 22, 1:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Fri Apr 22, 10:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Sat Apr 23, 7:43 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Sat Apr 23, 12:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Sat Apr 23, 7:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, david, (Thu Apr 21, 7:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 7:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Folderol, (Thu Apr 21, 7:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Thu Apr 21, 10:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Thu Apr 21, 7:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, david, (Fri Apr 22, 6:29 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Lieven Moors, (Thu Apr 21, 1:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Folderol, (Thu Apr 21, 8:31 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Wed Apr 20, 7:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Folderol, (Tue Apr 19, 8:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, linuxdsp, (Mon Apr 18, 12:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Mon Apr 18, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Mon Apr 18, 6:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Folderol, (Mon Apr 18, 7:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Mon Apr 18, 9:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, david, (Tue Apr 19, 8:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Tue Apr 19, 7:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, david, (Tue Apr 19, 8:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Tue Apr 19, 10:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Mon Apr 18, 9:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Mon Apr 18, 1:55 pm)
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Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Sat Apr 16, 11:20 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Julien Claassen, (Sat Apr 16, 11:27 am)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, S. Massy, (Sat Apr 16, 7:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Editing zynadsuxfx/yoshimi patches?, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Sun Apr 17, 11:06 am)