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Am 08.02.2011 17:33, schrieb david:

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> Hartmut Noack wrote:

>> Am 08.02.2011 09:15, schrieb david:

>>> Hartmut Noack wrote:

>>>> Am 08.02.2011 08:35, schrieb david:

>>>>> Robin Gareus wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Mike,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 02/07/2011 04:40 PM, Mike Cookson wrote:

>>>>>>> For non-realtime (including non-linear, like montage) processing you

>>>>>>> need only plugins (ladspa, lv2, vamp) and some editor like Audacity,

>>>>>>> mhWaveEdit or something other.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> For realtime (also called

>>>>>>> non-destructive editing... hm, probably, they are right :) you need

>>>>>>> set of various software, that could be used at one time and be

>>>>>>> connected each to other).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> real-time effects processing and non-destructive editing often go

>>>>>> hand

>>>>>> in hand, but note that

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "non-destructive" means that the original [audio] data will never be

>>>>>> modified. Any edit/effect/modifications are saved as new files (or

>>>>>> remebered as application-settings operating on the original data).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> audio-editors (rezound, audacity, sweep, etc) are usually

>>>>>> destructive:

>>>>>> load file, apply effect, save file -> original file is gone.

>>>>>

>>>>> Audacity is import audio file, apply effect, save project (optional),

>>>>> export in chosen format. It never replaces the original file.

>>>>

>>>> So there is a major dfference between audiofiles, you have imported

>>>> and audiofiles, you have recorded with audacity -- correct?

>>>

>>> No, I never have. I usually use JACK, and have never been able to make

>>> Audacity work with JACK. I've only done the following things with

>>> Audacity:

>>>

>>> 1. Import 16 tracks of 32-bit WAV files (recorded on another machine

>>> from my church band's Firewire interface using some Windows software)

>>> and do basic mixing.

>>>

>>> 2. Trim and cleanup voice audio recordings made on my PDA.

>>>

>>> 3. Trim and convert wave files recorded using jack_capture.

>>>

>>> 4. Pitch shift prerecorded MP3s if needed for band members who play

>>> solely by ear (if the recording's in Eb and we're playing it in D,

>>> they're lost).

>>>

>>> If you have the time and brains needed to learn Ardour, go for it!

>>>

>> I think it is a myth, that Ardour is too complicated to learn for a

>> beginner.

>

> Perhaps it's a myth for others. I responded only from my own experience.

>

> There are plenty of folk here who use Ardour and do wonderful things

> with it. Advanced features? I couldn't tell an advanced feature from a

> basic feature. I couldn't even figure out to simply record anything with

> it, and Ardour's "automagic" setup didn't seem to include that connection.

New Project -> add stereo-track -> arm it for recording -> klick the red

record-button in the upper left play-control.
Here is another little trick that may be helpfull for beginners:
SHIFT+E pops up the Mixer-channel of the active track. Klick around in

it to solve most of the problems and answer most of the questions that

may arise for a beginner in Ardour. Such as from top to bottom:
- where is my sound-card input signal going to?

- where are these plug-ins and how and where can I insert them?
Do not get me wrong: Ardour IS in fact not the most simple of the

beasts. But the comparably little effort to get it under controll brings

a lot of benefits that are must haves for serious audio-work. The most

prominent are realtime-mix/FX and automation.
What good is a simple interface if it does not give you the possibility

to set the parameters of an EQ *while* you hear, what you do.
As I switched from Windows 98 and Samplitude to Linux 2.4 I tried all

audio-editors available for Suse 7.3 and the only one that I found to be

worthwhile was SND. Shortly after that I heared word from Ardour that

was a legend that time. Only installable by wizards that know how to

compile komplex software from source and only runable with the magickal

jack, who needed an even more magical rt-kernel.
I worked for months until I had this Ardour-thing running and from that

very point I knew, that I would never again install a dual-boot system.
> No insult to Ardour, I'm no audio techno whiz. I figured I'd wait til

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> Ardour 3 is released and I have the time to learn it.

>

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