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On 2/8/2011 5:50 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:

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> Am 08.02.2011 09:15, schrieb david:

>> Hartmut Noack wrote:

>>> Am 08.02.2011 08:35, schrieb david:

>>>> Robin Gareus wrote:

>>>>> Hi Mike,

>>>>>

>>>>> On 02/07/2011 04:40 PM, Mike Cookson wrote:

>>>>>> For non-realtime (including non-linear, like montage) processing you

>>>>>> need only plugins (ladspa, lv2, vamp) and some editor like Audacity,

>>>>>> mhWaveEdit or something other.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> For realtime (also called

>>>>>> non-destructive editing... hm, probably, they are right :) you need

>>>>>> set of various software, that could be used at one time and be

>>>>>> connected each to other).

>>>>>

>>>>> real-time effects processing and non-destructive editing often go

>>>>> hand

>>>>> in hand, but note that

>>>>>

>>>>> "non-destructive" means that the original [audio] data will never be

>>>>> modified. Any edit/effect/modifications are saved as new files (or

>>>>> remebered as application-settings operating on the original data).

>>>>>

>>>>> audio-editors (rezound, audacity, sweep, etc) are usually

>>>>> destructive:

>>>>> load file, apply effect, save file -> original file is gone.

>>>>

>>>> Audacity is import audio file, apply effect, save project (optional),

>>>> export in chosen format. It never replaces the original file.

>>>

>>> So there is a major dfference between audiofiles, you have imported

>>> and audiofiles, you have recorded with audacity -- correct?

>>

>> No, I never have. I usually use JACK, and have never been able to make

>> Audacity work with JACK. I've only done the following things with

>> Audacity:

>>

>> 1. Import 16 tracks of 32-bit WAV files (recorded on another machine

>> from my church band's Firewire interface using some Windows software)

>> and do basic mixing.

>>

>> 2. Trim and cleanup voice audio recordings made on my PDA.

>>

>> 3. Trim and convert wave files recorded using jack_capture.

>>

>> 4. Pitch shift prerecorded MP3s if needed for band members who play

>> solely by ear (if the recording's in Eb and we're playing it in D,

>> they're lost).

>>

>> If you have the time and brains needed to learn Ardour, go for it!

>>

> I think it is a myth, that Ardour is too complicated to learn for a

> beginner.

>

> The Interface may look somewhat intimidating at first glance but with

> some basic rules in mind it is not too hard to be handeled.

>

> 1.) learn to ignore, what you cannot understand at first sight. about

> 99% of the default-settings are sane and usefull and if you need to

> change something, you will find out how as soon as you need it.

>

> 2.) understand the interaction between the tracks in the editor and

> the mixer. Tracks are sources, the mixer is manipulation both are

> connected by a signalflow that is setup by Ardour automagically. In

> the beginning you will not need to change anything in the routing

> later you will seldom need to change some details.

>

>

> With this in mind you can start using Ardour like this:

>

> 1.) start Jack

> 2.) start Ardour, type a name for your project and click OK

> 3.) rightklick under the master-track and choose "import audio" or

> drag/drop WAV-files from a GTK-Filemanager like Nautilus.

> 4.) Hit Space an hear your files play.

>

> Next step would be to insert some plugins in your tracks and start

> fiddeling with them.

>

> All the advanced stuff like set up recording from internal

> jack-clients, automatisation of faders and plugins, special

> mouse-modes or usage of the things in the right-click menues can be

> learned step by step after that.

>

> I really believe that an absolute beginner who does not allow

> him/herself to be intimidated by all the advanced features can begin

> to use Ardour with fun and good results within 1 h after starting such

> a program for the first time.

>

> best regards

>

> HZN

Thank you for all that!! Awesome!

I'll start playing tonight.  I might try to grab some sounds from my

friends PC video fame collection and start playing around.
Bearcat

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