Re: [LAU] Looking for Audio Watermarking Advice & Tools OFFLIST

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Oops=2C that was not offlist. Man=2C damn these mail clients.

"we have to make sure the old choice [Windows] doesn't disappear=94.
Jim Wong=2C president of IT products=2C Acer

From: nickycopeland@hotmail.com
To: linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org
Date: Sun=2C 23 Oct 2011 22:54:02 +0200
Subject: Re: [LAU] Looking for Audio Watermarking Advice & Tools OFFLIST

> My end goal is to insert content into an audio file to identify me as

> the creator and identify which parts of the Creative Commons license

Paranoia?

Creative Commons is about letting your children leave home and find a

life of their own - they are still your children but you accept that they h=
ave
gone feral. If you cannot handle that then don't release in the public doma=
in.

Nick.

"we have to make sure the old choice [Windows] doesn't disappear=94.
Jim Wong=2C president of IT products=2C Acer

> To: nickycopeland@hotmail.com

wrote:
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&gt=3B My end goal is to insert content into an audio file to identify me a=
s
&gt=3B the creator and identify which parts of the Creative Commons license=
&gt=3B apply to its release. What term should I use to name that?<=
br>
Paranoia?

Creative Commons is about letting your children leave home and find a
life of their own - they are still your children but you accept that they h=
avegone feral. If you cannot handle that then don't release in the publ=
ic domain.Nick."we have to make sure the old choice [Window=
s] doesn't disappear=94.Jim Wong=2C president of IT products=2C Acer&gt=3B To: nickycopeland@hotmail.com&gt=3B Subject: Re: [=
LAU] Looking for Audio Watermarking Advice &amp=3B Tools &gt=3B Date: S=
un=2C 23 Oct 2011 13:32:18 -0700&gt=3B From: kevinc@cosgroves.us&gt=
=3B &gt=3B &gt=3B On 23 October 2011 at 22:10=2C Nick Copeland &lt=
=3Bnickycopeland@hotmail.com&gt=3B wrote:&gt=3B &gt=3B &gt=3B &gt=
=3B Have you ever signed a file with GNUPG? That's a watermark.&gt=3B =
&gt=3B &gt=3B Have you ever used an SHA or MD5 signature of a file=2C and&gt=3B &gt=3B &gt=3B verified those signatures with GNUPG?&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B What is the relationship?&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &=
gt=3B These are not watermarks. The above are methods to prove or&gt=3B=
&gt=3B disprove that any given person was the source of a given&gt=3B =
&gt=3B message.&gt=3B &gt=3B That's precisely the intent of what I =
want to do with an audio file &gt=3B watermark=2C to prove that at leas=
t at one point I was the source of &gt=3B the file.&gt=3B &gt=
=3B &gt=3B A watermark is a means of marking a resource such that it may&gt=3B &gt=3B not be used by anybody else without degradation of quality.<=
br>&gt=3B &gt=3B We have in mind different definitions of "watermark". =
Certainly=2C I &gt=3B could be wrong in my terminology.&gt=3B =
&gt=3B This definition http://www.thefreedictionary.com/watermark doesn't h=
elp.&gt=3B &gt=3B This definition http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/d=
igital_watermark.html&gt=3B leans more in the direction of what you're =
saying in the 3rd sentence&gt=3B of the first paragraph. But=2C the fi=
rst sentence of that paragraph is&gt=3B much like what I would want. I=
'm only after the identification of the&gt=3B material=2C not the restr=
iction of the material. If I wanted &gt=3B restriction=2C then I would=
have asked for advise on how to do that &gt=3B instead.&gt=3B =
&gt=3B My end goal is to insert content into an audio file to identify me a=
s&gt=3B the creator and identify which parts of the Creative Commons li=
cense&gt=3B apply to its release. What term should I use to name that?=
&gt=3B &gt=3B Thanks....&gt=3B &gt=3B --&gt=3B Kevin&gt=3B &gt=3B
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