Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?

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Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 1:29 am

On 10/19/2011 05:36 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

And isn't that the point to which we've gotten? I'll admit that I'm an
old fart - my first engineering job, in a 16 track studio was in 1979.

If a band wanted to cut a 4 song demo, they had to book studio time at
$250/hour. They had to buy a reel of 2" tape. The studio had several
hundred thousand dollars of equipment, and who knows how much in
acoustic design, room treatments, etc. The alternative for someone who
wanted to record at home and save several thousand dollars was a TEAC
2440, a 24x4 mixer, and a dozen or so mics, which still was going to
cost them a few thousand dollars.

Then came the Fostex 16 track 1/2" machine. Suddenly, it was acceptable
for a "project studio" to open up with a Fostex 16 charge $25-$35/hour
for bands to cut demos (INCLUDING ENGINEER!!!!) The engineer wasn't
necessarily any good - he just did it as a hobby since he only had to
spend a few thousand dollars to get started. A band that wanted to do a
song or two, which would take about 8 hours of time, then had to decide
whether to spend $2000 at the "big" studio, or $200 at the project
studio. The "value" of the big studio was lessened, because more and
more REALLY CHEAP studios were popping up.

Look at the situation now, for the cost of a computer, soundcard, and a
few mics, They can spend unlimited time, cutting unlimited tracks, with
unlimited overdubs. They don't however, have quality large monitors, or
an acoustically "known" room. Now a band can spend that same couple of
thousand dollars, and spend UNLIMITED time in the studio. The thinking
is "why pay ANYONE to record a couple of song for us, when we can spend
that same money and record ALL of our songs?"

> Nothing new here. When I was working for BRT (Belgian public

Which is exactly why our local musician union about had a stroke when
someone showed up with a Mellotron.

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[LAU] Top DSP plugins?, James Stone, (Mon Oct 17, 9:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Dan MacDonald, (Sat Oct 22, 9:22 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Robin Gareus, (Sat Oct 22, 10:21 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Dan MacDonald, (Sat Oct 22, 10:48 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Simon Wise, (Sat Oct 22, 12:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Malte Steiner, (Wed Oct 19, 7:20 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Tue Oct 18, 12:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Tue Oct 18, 5:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Wed Oct 19, 8:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Wed Oct 19, 7:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Wed Oct 19, 9:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Wed Oct 19, 10:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Thu Oct 20, 7:43 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 19, 9:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Thu Oct 20, 8:21 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Al Thompson, (Thu Oct 20, 1:29 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Thu Oct 20, 6:28 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, fred, (Thu Oct 20, 8:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Fri Oct 21, 9:21 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Thu Oct 20, 8:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Fri Oct 21, 9:18 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Oct 19, 8:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Wed Oct 19, 9:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Folderol, (Wed Oct 19, 10:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 19, 8:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Thu Oct 20, 8:15 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Thu Oct 20, 8:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Salwen, (Thu Oct 20, 11:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Thu Oct 20, 11:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Thu Oct 20, 8:07 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Thomas Vecchione, (Thu Oct 20, 11:18 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, fred, (Thu Oct 20, 8:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, S. Massy, (Thu Oct 20, 8:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Fri Oct 21, 9:23 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Kees van Veen, (Fri Oct 21, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Fri Oct 21, 7:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Paul Davis, (Fri Oct 21, 8:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Mon Oct 24, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Sat Oct 22, 6:55 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, sevol, (Sat Oct 22, 9:18 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, david, (Sat Oct 22, 8:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, fred, (Thu Oct 20, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Folderol, (Thu Oct 20, 8:43 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Al Thompson, (Thu Oct 20, 10:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Oct 20, 2:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Al Thompson, (Thu Oct 20, 1:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Ricardus Vincente, (Thu Oct 20, 1:40 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Al Thompson, (Thu Oct 20, 2:09 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Ricardus Vincente, (Thu Oct 20, 2:12 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Oct 19, 10:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 19, 7:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Thu Oct 20, 7:01 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, fred, (Thu Oct 20, 8:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Wed Oct 19, 6:39 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Folderol, (Wed Oct 19, 4:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Tue Oct 18, 8:50 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, fred, (Tue Oct 18, 5:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Harry van Haaren, (Tue Oct 18, 8:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Leigh Dyer, (Tue Oct 18, 10:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Jeremy Jongepier, (Wed Oct 19, 6:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Wed Oct 19, 7:23 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Harry van Haaren, (Tue Oct 18, 10:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, fred, (Tue Oct 18, 9:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Harry van Haaren, (Tue Oct 18, 10:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Al Thompson, (Mon Oct 17, 11:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Louigi Verona, (Tue Oct 18, 5:10 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Folderol, (Tue Oct 18, 7:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Oct 18, 6:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Brett McCoy, (Mon Oct 17, 10:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Julien Claassen, (Mon Oct 17, 9:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Kevin Thoma, (Mon Oct 17, 9:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Robin Gareus, (Tue Oct 18, 11:21 am)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Julien Claassen, (Mon Oct 17, 9:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] Top DSP plugins?, Julien Claassen, (Mon Oct 17, 9:33 pm)