Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg

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Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 4:31 pm

Am 12.10.2011 18:03, schrieb david:

As I said: there *is* a difference. But MP3 or OGG do not sound "bad",
they can reproduce the spectrum hearable by most people and they do not
introduce a relevant amount of noise or distortion. They simply reduce
the information.

> (LAME's variable bit rate, quality 2). Mostly more high

I never had the impression, that high frequencies where reduced by
encoding. But I did hear rather dramatic effects on dynamics and density.

> But this isn't double-blind testing.

Most double-blind-tests are made with released recordings. Such
recordings are in most cases mixed and mastered to meet the expectations
of average listeners and to fit the limitations of kitchen-radios and
MP3-players. Make a double-blind test with a fresh, un-mastered
recording of say, a band like Mastodon or Kyuss and the difference will
be obvious. But that does not say, that the listeners in the test will
actually prefer the un-encoded version....

>

My mobile-phone uses MP4 for its so called "high-quality"-mode for field
recordings. I do not notice any difference compared with the MP3 or OGG
used by other cheap field recorders I used.

The only compressed format, I ever found slightly listenable better than
MP3/OGG was the ATRAC on my old Minidisc-recorder.

But who cares: real recordings may never be compressed and MP3/OGG are
OK for easy distribution. People may get a CD or LP to get the real
thing or a flac to have something for net-distribution.

best regs
HZN

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[LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Atte André Jensen, (Tue Oct 11, 8:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Tue Oct 11, 9:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Oct 11, 9:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Hartmut Noack, (Wed Oct 12, 3:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, david, (Wed Oct 12, 4:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Hartmut Noack, (Wed Oct 12, 4:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 12, 5:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Wed Oct 12, 7:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 12, 7:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Oct 12, 10:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Hartmut Noack, (Wed Oct 12, 9:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Monty Montgomery, (Wed Oct 12, 9:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Hartmut Noack, (Thu Oct 13, 5:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Egor Sanin, (Thu Oct 13, 10:53 am)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, S. Massy, (Tue Oct 11, 9:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Lorenzo Sutton, (Wed Oct 12, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Charles Henry, (Wed Oct 12, 2:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, , (Wed Oct 12, 2:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Kevin Cosgrove, (Wed Oct 12, 2:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Monty Montgomery, (Wed Oct 12, 2:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, S. Massy, (Tue Oct 11, 10:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Philipp Überbacher, (Wed Oct 12, 10:20 am)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, S. Massy, (Wed Oct 12, 9:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Monty Montgomery, (Wed Oct 12, 10:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, S. Massy, (Wed Oct 19, 7:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Monty Montgomery, (Tue Oct 11, 10:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Folderol, (Wed Oct 12, 7:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Monty Montgomery, (Tue Oct 11, 10:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Al Thompson, (Wed Oct 12, 5:34 am)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, S. Massy, (Wed Oct 19, 6:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Oct 19, 7:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Atte André Jensen, (Tue Oct 11, 9:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Joe Hartley, (Wed Oct 12, 12:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Oct 11, 9:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Atte André Jensen, (Tue Oct 11, 9:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] How bad is mp3/ogg, Moshe Werner, (Tue Oct 11, 10:28 pm)