Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release

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To: Paul Davis <paul@...>
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Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 6:26 pm

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Paul Davis wrote:

Hi Paul,

Let me shed some light from the opposite side.

I was one of the developers of the "existing codebase" [1]. Actually,
I joined the project formally about 3 months ago and I believe I made
a significant contribution in porting it to Qt4. The way I joined to
the project was traditional: sent a couple useful patches so that
people can get to know me, and after a couple rounds I got commit
rights. From my experience with open source projects, this is the way
things evolve. (I sent patches to ardour too in the past, you folks
have been friendly all the time. I am pretty sure same thing would
have happened if I contributed more frequently.)

OOM folks took a different approach. Originally, we granted them an
SVN branch and we were working under the same umbrella. They put
really hard work in their branch, and I admired most of what they did.
The plan was to merge their new features into the trunk. So we asked
for patches for individual features. This never came from them.
Instead they wanted us to grab everything (or a subset) as is. Our
team did not have the resources to take the diff of each individual
file to filter out each separate feature, and we simply didn't want to
accept *everything* as is. Thus, we proposed them to fork. This is
purely due to differences in the workflow and creativity.

That said, I believe the original codebase deserved a little more
credit than what is there in the bottom corner of the AUTHORS file.
Moreover, when they forked off, they _kindly_ asked us to not backport
some of the changes they made (mostly appearance related). While I do
not have any intention of using their look, I found this a little odd.
You are borrowing tens of thousands of lines of code from a project,
don't give them credit in your project webpage, and tell them not to
use your little contribution in their original codebase. There is
something morally wrong here.

Anyhow, I wish them good luck with their project.

Best,
Orcan

[1] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2010-December/075...
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[LAU] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, alex stone, (Thu Jan 27, 2:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, Paul Davis, (Thu Jan 27, 4:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, Orcan Ogetbil, (Thu Jan 27, 6:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, Christopher Cherrett, (Thu Jan 27, 7:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, Christopher Cherrett, (Fri Jan 28, 7:01 am)
Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, Orcan Ogetbil, (Fri Jan 28, 3:43 am)
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Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Jan 28, 3:59 am)
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Re: [LAU] [LAD] OpenOctaveMidi2 (OOM2) beta release, alex stone, (Thu Jan 27, 4:47 pm)
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