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Man, this is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Exactly!
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, david  wrote:
> Louigi Verona wrote:

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>

>> I agree on a lot of what you say. I just believe that some things are

>> larger than what a person thinks of them. Being a craftsman, having glory,

>> even being aware of one's achievements and getting a contract - I am

>> absolutely not against those things. I am just saying they should be in

>> correct perspective.

>>

>

> I agree, keeping in mind that they're not mutually exclusive.

>

>

>  Today, I argue, many people put money and personality into too much light.

>>

>

> Even in things that have no connection with art. Look at how many of

> today's basketball players talk - you'd think that before they were born,

> they'd given themselves their athletic abilities!

>

>

>  While a lot of those things should be kept personal, like awareness of

>> achievements, not be shown on TV in form of a show where they show off

>> houses and cars.

>>

>

> Or even a video channel that was founded to show music videos? (Yah, I

> know, the real MTV died a long time ago!)

>

> I think one should keep in mind that one use of the media is to tell

> people, "Here is my work. Here is my renown." So if you're a traveling

> musician and come into a town to play a concert, it's certainly OK to be

> interviewed by the local radio station, maybe play a few songs and sign some

> CDs at the local music store. One can do all that without going overboard

> into ego and personality.

>

> Well, easier for some than others! I can't quite picture Axl Rose or Mick

> Jagger stuffing their egos and personalities into a sack before going into

> the interview.

>

> Here in Hawaii, we have a long tradition of Hawaiian music and chant (not

> that tourist stuff!). At one place where I worked, there was an older (70+)

> native Hawaiian man named Kawika whose job was to distribute and pick up

> interoffice mail. Knew him for many years. He was friendly, knew everyone in

> the large company, did his work, never talked about himself.

>

> One day someone else in the office asked if I'd heard that his song had won

> a Hoku Award (Google it). I didn't even know he wrote music! It turned out

> that he'd written many Hawaiian songs, and one he'd written for his daughter

> that year had won the Hoku.

>

> At the same place, for several years, the director of one of the

> departments was Marlene Sai. I worked with her daily for two weeks straight,

> documenting their department procedures, and never knew this about her: <

> http://www.hawaiianmusichistory.com/artists/marlene-sai.htm>

>

> Another place where I worked, we had a part time worker, a native Hawaiian

> man, who did messenger duties and light maintenance work at various

> buildings the bank I worked for owned. Then someone asked if I'd walked over

> to see his sculpture yet. He'd been commissioned to make four Hawaiian

> sculptures in bronze for the lobby of a large new high rise office building

> downtown! And had apparently been sculpting for about 20 years. That was why

> he only worked part time! He also didn't talk about himself or his

> sculpture.

>

> Hawaiian culture is that way. You don't talk about your deeds, you don't

> glorify yourself. You have glory when others talk about your deeds. And you

> always have an attitude of gratitude for the gifts/talents you have.

>

>

> --

> David

> gnome@hawaii.rr.com

> authenticity, honesty, community

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Man, this is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Exactly!<=

br>On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, david <gnome@hawaii.rr.c=

om> wrote:

Louigi Verona wrote:
I agree on a lot of what you say. I just believe that some things are large=

r than what a person thinks of them. Being a craftsman, having glory, even =

being aware of one's achievements and getting a contract - I am absolut=

ely not against those things. I am just saying they should be in correct pe=

rspective.
I agree, keeping in mind that they're not mutually exclusive.
Today, I argue, many people put money and personality into too much light.<=

br>
Even in things that have no connection with art. Look at how many of today&=

#39;s basketball players talk - you'd think that before they were born,=

 they'd given themselves their athletic abilities!
While a lot of those things should be kept personal, like awareness of achi=

evements, not be shown on TV in form of a show where they show off houses a=

nd cars.
Or even a video channel that was founded to show music videos? (Yah, I know=

, the real MTV died a long time ago!)
I think one should keep in mind that one use of the media is to tell people=

, "Here is my work. Here is my renown." So if you're a travel=

ing musician and come into a town to play a concert, it's certainly OK =

to be interviewed by the local radio station, maybe play a few songs and si=

gn some CDs at the local music store. One can do all that without going ove=

rboard into ego and personality.
Well, easier for some than others! I can't quite picture Axl Rose or Mi=

ck Jagger stuffing their egos and personalities into a sack before going in=

to the interview.
Here in Hawaii, we have a long tradition of Hawaiian music and chant (not t=

hat tourist stuff!). At one place where I worked, there was an older (70+) =

native Hawaiian man named Kawika whose job was to distribute and pick up in=

teroffice mail. Knew him for many years. He was friendly, knew everyone in =

the large company, did his work, never talked about himself.
One day someone else in the office asked if I'd heard that his song had=

 won a Hoku Award (Google it). I didn't even know he wrote music! It tu=

rned out that he'd written many Hawaiian songs, and one he'd writte=

n for his daughter that year had won the Hoku.
At the same place, for several years, the director of one of the department=

s was Marlene Sai. I worked with her daily for two weeks straight, document=

ing their department procedures, and never knew this about her: <http://www.hawaiianmusichistory.com/artists/marlene-sai.htm>=
Another place where I worked, we had a part time worker, a native Hawaiian =

man, who did messenger duties and light maintenance work at various buildin=

gs the bank I worked for owned. Then someone asked if I'd walked over t=

o see his sculpture yet. He'd been commissioned to make four Hawaiian s=

culptures in bronze for the lobby of a large new high rise office building =

downtown! And had apparently been sculpting for about 20 years. That was wh=

y he only worked part time! He also didn't talk about himself or his sc=

ulpture.
Hawaiian culture is that way. You don't talk about your deeds, you don&=

#39;t glorify yourself. You have glory when others talk about your deeds. A=

nd you always have an attitude of gratitude for the gifts/talents you have.=
--

David

gnome@hawaii.rr.co=

m

authenticity, honesty, community

_______________________________________________

Linux-audio-user mailing list

=

Linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org

http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user

-- Louigi Vero=

nahttp://www.louigiverona.ru/

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