Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups

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Date: Friday, July 16, 2010 - 7:38 pm

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM, david wrote:

>> The other guys are doing the same, but to them, cutting off families'

All the ISPs are doing is watching bandwidth. They're not watching
content. They just 'logically assume' that there aren't too many
sources of data that provide 4GB of data unless it's a movie, and if
it's a movie it's copyrighted, and if it's copyrighted then it
shouldn't be 'copied'. This isn't Big Brother. It's just logic.

They don't need to _prove_ copyright infringement because if they
don't cut someone off after determining that there is a high
likelihood that the customer is transmitting copyrighted data then
they potentially become liable along with the customer. And since the
original agreement signed by the customer states they won't use the
connection to transmit copyrighted data in any manner contrary to the
local laws more power to them for doing it.

As far as I've heard, at least in the U.S. they don't cut anyone off
for copying one 4GB item even if it is a movie but they can watch for
aggregate bandwidth. When it starts to be 200GB/month - the point
where Comcast has told me they will cancel my account and cut me off
completely & forever - then they are probably right if the bandwidth
is coming from an 'unlikely' IP. They know where NetFlix and Hulu are
streaming from, and those are legal because they are licensed. They
can guess when it's coming from a file sharing website or using
BitTorrent that it _probably_ isn't. A few GB from those sites
probably won't result in a court appearance. 10 Terrabyte likely will.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Philipp √úberbacher, (Mon Jun 28, 10:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Tue Jun 29, 7:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Tue Jun 29, 11:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:07 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Kevin Cosgrove, (Wed Jun 30, 10:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:53 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Jul 2, 12:52 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Mark Knecht, (Fri Jul 16, 7:38 pm)
[LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Gordon JC Pearce, (Fri Jul 16, 7:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Mark Knecht, (Fri Jul 16, 11:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Louigi Verona, (Sat Jul 17, 7:44 am)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., hermann, (Fri Jul 16, 8:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Gwenhwyfaer, (Fri Jul 16, 9:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., James Stone, (Sat Jul 17, 10:14 am)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Gwenhwyfaer, (Mon Jul 19, 5:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jul 17, 12:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Folderol, (Sat Jul 17, 12:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Folderol, (Fri Jul 16, 7:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Bob van der Poel, (Thu Jul 15, 11:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Fri Jul 16, 11:36 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Wed Jun 30, 1:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Philipp √úberbacher, (Wed Jun 30, 4:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Wed Jun 30, 2:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:12 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Jul 2, 12:50 am)