Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups

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Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 11:43 pm

On Thursday 15 July 2010 19:11:22 you wrote:

Well, I think it is clear that people are using the word "right" to mean
different things. Are you meaning what people call Natural rights, or are you
meaning Legal Rights which some call privileges?

Are these rights you speak of something someone is justified in using force
against another person to secure? Do all natural rights justify the use of
force to secure? Legal rights? (Speaking person to person, not state
enforced.)

See, can we assign our right to Freedom to someone if we wish? Our right to
life?

If only. But in keeping with that thought, I propose that anyone who wants to
look at things that way is held responsible for net letting their works be
heard / seen in public places of any kind but only in places where the public
has to pay to enter.

> But if I do buy

I don't agree. The law in some places states this though it seems and I will
do my best to obey the laws where I am. In fact, personally, I think my
giving copies of someones work to a friend is more valuable to the artist in
many cases than the value of the copy. So, if they don't want me to work for
them for free in promoting their music to my friends, I am happy to oblige.
There are other people making fine music that are happy for me to promote
them at no cost to themselves and I am happy to do so.

But this is precisely why the term "Intellectual Property" was coined. To
answer this vexing question. Just like my heirs should get to enjoy my real
and personal property after I die as long as it lasts and they do not sell
it, the theory is that the same should hold for my intellectual property. Any
thinking to the contrary is a disrespect of private property rights. Well for
that reason and to make people fuzzy on the completely different laws, terms,
etc, surrounding the different legal concepts lumped together under the term.

And the real problem is that the deal that was made keeps getting broken by
the side holding the copyrights. To the point that just recently I read of
works already in the public domain being taken back and put under copyright.

Here is to that hope coming to pass. New problems certainly will.

I am sure they will. I am more concerned about artists being able to earn what
normal folks on the block earn rather than that they be able to run with the
big boys. (If they can in a sane system, fine.)

http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-memorabilia/autographed-football...
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-memorabilia/autographed-football...
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-memorabilia/autographed-football...
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-memorabilia/autographed-basketba...
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-memorabilia/autographed-baseball...
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-memorabilia/autographed-golf-bal...
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-memorabilia/autographed-golf-pho...

Do you see the prices on some of those items? Surely some famous musician can
put together packages to get in on that game.

How many people would like to be listed as co-executive producers on the next
album by an artist they like?

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Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Philipp √úberbacher, (Mon Jun 28, 10:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Tue Jun 29, 7:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Tue Jun 29, 11:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:07 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Kevin Cosgrove, (Wed Jun 30, 10:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:53 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Jul 2, 12:52 am)
[LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Gordon JC Pearce, (Fri Jul 16, 7:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Mark Knecht, (Fri Jul 16, 11:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Louigi Verona, (Sat Jul 17, 7:44 am)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., hermann, (Fri Jul 16, 8:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Gwenhwyfaer, (Fri Jul 16, 9:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., James Stone, (Sat Jul 17, 10:14 am)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Gwenhwyfaer, (Mon Jul 19, 5:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jul 17, 12:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Folderol, (Sat Jul 17, 12:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] So long, and thanks for all the fish., Folderol, (Fri Jul 16, 7:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Bob van der Poel, (Thu Jul 15, 11:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, drew Roberts, (Thu Jul 15, 11:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Fri Jul 16, 11:36 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Wed Jun 30, 1:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Philipp √úberbacher, (Wed Jun 30, 4:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Wed Jun 30, 2:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jul 1, 12:12 am)
Re: [LAU] ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Jul 2, 12:50 am)