Re: [LAU] app for simple editing and recording?

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To: Philipp Überbacher <hollunder@...>, <rennabh@...>
Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 2:40 am

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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Philipp =C3=9Cberbacher
wrote:

> Qtractor might also be able to do it. Don't know about the others.

Qtractor can do mp3 playback/non-destructive-editing and is fully jack-ifie=
d
for both MIDI and Audio, per
http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-index.html

> Uses JACK for audio and ALSA sequencer for MIDI as multimedia

*Built-in connection patchbay control and persistence (a-la QjackCtl).*

Audio file formats support: OGG (via libvorbis), MP3 (via libmad, playback

A few links on Qtractor showing screenshots of main features:
http://www.straightedgelinux.com/qtractor/howto_qmidi.html
http://www.straightedgelinux.com/qtractor/

If you use Fedora 12, x86_64, you can try the stable release I just built:
http://nielsmayer.com/qtractor-0.4.5svn1517-2.fc12.x86_64.rpm

My opinion of qtractor, posted to PlanetCCRMA
http://old.nabble.com/Re:-Qtractor-0.4.5svn1517-p28567324.html
....................
I strongly second that this version of qtractor be included in the CCRMA
repo. It is very solid, and very nice!! I've tested it extensively today an=
d
it never crashed, never did anything unexpected, and kept up with
everything. I was also wondering when I'll be giving rosegarden another
chance, as qtractor is much closer to what I expect as it's based on the
last sensible DAW I ever used: Cakewalk Pro Audio (
http://www.rncbc.org/jack/qtractor-0.1.0-whitepaper.pdf ). Yes, rosegarden'=
s
integrated notation, extensive feature set, documentation and maturity is
great. But the direct integration of audio and midi, and the simplicity and
"ease of flow" of qtractor is more important for my purposes. Given that
many of the "future features" from the aforementioned whitepaper have
already been implemented, I have high hopes that qtractor will be able to
remain competitive with any future developments on other platforms and othe=
r
DAWs.

Other than its complete jack-ification, the thing that makes qtractor stand
out is the compatibility with Cakewalk instrument definition files availabl=
e
on the net. For example, I quickly googled-upon
http://www.cybertown.com/xginstr.zip --> YamahaXG.ins, a Cakewalk instrumen=
t
definition file which creates names for patches, voices, banks in my Yamaha
db60xg synth-daughterboard. I'm sure all my other synths and gear will be
just as easy to find because there's a lot of Cakewalk users on the
internet.

Another important feature is midi controller mappings, which are hellishly
tedious to implement in a one-off fashion. It is nice that qtractor provide=
s
a framework on which people can start sharing control surface layouts and
definitions, just like cakewalk did with it's .ins format:
http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/node/142

> Greatest thanks goes to Mathias Krause aka gizzmo, who contributed with t=
he

w
ng
r

..................

-- Niels
http://nielsmayer.com

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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Philipp =C3=9Cb=
erbacher <hol=
lunder@lavabit.com
> wrote:
Qtractor might also be able to do it. Don't know about the others.Qtractor can do mp3 playback/non-destructive-ed=
iting and is fully jack-ified for both MIDI and Audio, per=C2=A0http://qtractor.source=
forge.net/qtractor-index.html

Uses=C2=A0JACK=C2=A0for audio and=C2=A0ALSA=C2=A0sequencer for MIDI as mult=
imedia infrastructures.
Built-in connection p=
atchbay control and persistence (a-la=C2=A0QjackCtl).
Audio file formats support: OGG (via=C2=A0libvorbis), MP3 (via=C2=A0libmad,=
playback only), WAV, FLAC, AIFF and many, many more (via=C2=A0libsndfile).=
A few links on Qtractor showin=
g screenshots of main features:
http://www.straightedgelinux.com/qtractor/howto_qmidi.html<=
a href=3D"http://www.straightedgelinux.com/qtractor/">http://www.straighted=
gelinux.com/qtractor/
If you use Fedora 12, x86_64, you can try the stable re=
lease I just built: =C2=A0http://nielsmayer.com/qtractor-0.4.5svn1517-2.fc12=
.x86_64.rpm

My opinion of qtractor, posted to PlanetCCRMA=C2=A0http=
://old.nabble.com/Re:-Qtractor-0.4.5svn1517-p28567324.html
..=
..................

I strongly second that this version of qtractor be included in the CCRMA re=
po.=C2=A0It is very solid, and very nice!! I've tested it=C2=A0extensiv=
ely=C2=A0today and it never crashed, never did anything unexpected, and kep=
t up with everything. I was also wondering when I'll be giving rosegard=
en another chance, as qtractor is much closer to what I expect as it's =
based on the last sensible DAW I ever used: Cakewalk Pro Audio (=C2=A0http://www.rncbc.org/jack/qtractor-0.1.0-whitepaper.pdf=C2=A0). Yes, rosegar=
den's integrated notation, extensive feature set, documentation and mat=
urity is great. But the direct integration of audio and midi, and the simpl=
icity and "ease of flow" of qtractor is more important for my pur=
poses. Given that many of the "future features" from the aforemen=
tioned whitepaper have already been implemented, I have high hopes that qtr=
actor will be able to remain competitive with any future developments on ot=
her platforms and other DAWs.

Other than its complete jack-ification, the thing that makes qtractor stand=
out is the compatibility with Cakewalk instrument definition files availab=
le on the net. For example, I quickly googled-upon=C2=A0http://www.cybertown.com/xginstr.zip=C2=A0-->=C2=A0Ya=
mahaXG.ins, a Cakewalk=C2=A0instrument definition file which creates names =
for patches, voices, banks in my Yamaha db60xg synth-daughterboard. I'm=
sure all my other synths and gear will be just as easy to find because the=
re's a lot of Cakewalk users on the internet.

Another important feature is midi controller mappings, which are hellishly =
tedious to implement in a one-off fashion. It is nice that qtractor provide=
s a framework on which people can start sharing control surface layouts and=
definitions, just like cakewalk did with it's .ins format:=C2=A0http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/node/142

Greatest thanks goes to Mathias Krause aka gizzmo, who contributed with the=
fundamental code to the new MIDI controller mapping functionality that now=
widens the=C2=A0Qtractor=C2=A0horizon with regard from gen=
eric control surfaces. Being the=C2=A0Behringer BCF2=
000
=C2=A0a notable example, control feedback is fully supported =
so that those fancy motorized faders, knobs and lights, actually reflect th=
e whole mixing and editing session state. Some pre-made files are here prov=
ided for your convenience:=C2=A0bcx2000.qtc=C2=A0is to import into Qtr=
actor (View/Controllers...) and a couple of presets goes into your BCF2000,=
=C2=A0Qtractor_Mixer_1-8.syx=C2=A0and=C2=A0Qtractor=
_Mixer_9-16.syx
, respectively for the first and second set of ei=
ght channel/track strips.
..................=
-- Nielshttp://nielsmayer.com<=
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[LAU] app for simple editing and recording?, Renato, (Sat May 15, 10:42 pm)
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Re: [LAU] app for simple editing and recording?, Harry Van Haaren, (Sat May 15, 11:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] app for simple editing and recording?, David Adler, (Sun May 16, 12:09 am)
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Re: [LAU] app for simple editing and recording?, Brett McCoy, (Sat May 15, 11:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] app for simple editing and recording?, Philipp Überbacher, (Sat May 15, 11:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] app for simple editing and recording?, Niels Mayer, (Sun May 16, 2:40 am)