Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 & CCRMA

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To: Patrick Shirkey <pshirkey@...>
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Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 11:57 am

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

And what makes you think I (we) never tried? Fedora is going to make
its 6th release with pulseaudio next week and pulseaudio is still
fundamentally buggy. I really don't want to talk about the hours I
spent on pulseaudio. Did you ever file a bug to pulseaudio? Or did you
try to reason with its developer? I did. Yes, I was stupid. But when
pulseaudio started crashing my wife's computer, and destroying her
hdd, I figured that it was time to react.

Me and many people in Fedora who are dealing with audio are willing to
drop pulseaudio, at least make it non-default. It is a waste of time
and resources to enforce some mobile device company's buggy toy on
Linux desktop users. Unfortunately for the time being, the steering
committee of Fedora does not contain enough people with audio
knowledge to make such a decision.

I am working at Fedora but that does not mean that I support
everything we do. It is a large community and like in all large
communities, we have disagreements. After all these years of
education, I can't promote stupidity. Sorry.

Orcan
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[LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Sat May 15, 2:48 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Orcan Ogetbil, (Sat May 15, 3:34 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat May 15, 11:33 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 & CCRMA, Orcan Ogetbil, (Sat May 15, 11:57 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat May 15, 9:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Sat May 15, 4:33 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Sat May 15, 7:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Sun May 16, 7:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 17, 1:23 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Orcan Ogetbil, (Sun May 16, 8:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Mon May 17, 12:19 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Sun May 16, 9:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Niels Mayer, (Mon May 17, 12:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Mon May 17, 1:27 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 17, 2:13 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Niels Mayer, (Mon May 17, 5:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 17, 5:49 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 17, 5:54 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Wed May 19, 9:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, S C Rigler, (Wed May 19, 10:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 24, 7:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Wed May 19, 11:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Orcan Ogetbil, (Thu May 20, 1:37 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Thu May 20, 2:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Paul Davis, (Thu May 20, 2:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Wed May 19, 11:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Thu May 20, 2:39 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Paul Davis, (Thu May 20, 12:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Thu May 20, 1:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Scott, (Thu May 20, 4:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Niels Mayer, (Thu May 20, 4:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Thu May 20, 1:59 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Thu May 20, 2:14 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Thu May 20, 2:59 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Mon May 17, 3:59 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 17, 5:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Mon May 17, 2:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Jeremy, (Mon May 17, 8:47 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon May 17, 1:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon May 17, 1:59 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Rick Green, (Sun May 16, 7:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Orcan Ogetbil, (Sat May 15, 7:01 am)
Re: [LAU] Fedora 12 &amp; CCRMA, Ng Oon-Ee, (Sat May 15, 2:53 am)