Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx]

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Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 7:42 am

Paul Davis wrote:

> its not just that randomness is OK. its that (a) a highly quantized

Are you saying that work produced in PD or csound is more art than work
produced in Abbleton Live or Renoise?

No need to read between the lines here: I use renoise, and feel provoked
by what I seem to read between the lines of your post :-)

For me it's a matter of picking the right tool. I am actually a jazz
pianist (studied four years at the conservatory), plus I have a thing
for electronic music. When I play bebop I'm not gonna bring my computer,
in that context the piano is the best tool. But when I want to make
electronic music, the piano's not helping me create the sounds I hear in
my head. And neither is PD. I tried alot of different software (mostly
the free stuff this thread seems to value more than commercial
alternatives), and so far renoise supports me the best in getting the
sound I'm after.

I'm not saying this to you in particular, Paul (actually I need to hear
this myself as well), but I think we could all benefit if we could:

1) Accept that genres are different, and we don't like them all. Any
musical genre could potentially be used as a medium for "art" or "crap".

2) Accept that software are different. Obviously we all here would
prefer free tools, and the quality of different software can
unquestionably vary, making the tool either useless or useful, I guess
we all prefer stable, well thought out software. Still, any software can
be used for generating "art" or "crap".

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Atte

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Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, hollunder, (Thu Feb 11, 9:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Emiliano Grilli, (Thu Feb 11, 10:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Fri Feb 12, 5:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Josh Lawrence, (Sat Feb 13, 5:40 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Atte André Jensen, (Fri Feb 12, 11:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, hermann, (Fri Feb 12, 6:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Thu Feb 11, 11:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Arve Barsnes, (Fri Feb 12, 9:39 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 10:23 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 8:21 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 10:35 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 11:42 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Viktor Mastoridis, (Fri Feb 12, 1:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Fri Feb 12, 6:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Atte André Jensen, (Sat Feb 13, 7:42 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Viktor Mastoridis, (Sat Feb 13, 10:57 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 12:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 2:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Esben Stien, (Sat Feb 13, 2:01 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Sat Feb 13, 10:40 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Sat Feb 13, 11:14 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Sat Feb 13, 1:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, david, (Sat Feb 13, 4:48 pm)
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Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, luigi curzi, (Sat Feb 13, 1:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Sat Feb 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Folderol, (Sat Feb 13, 2:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Emiliano Grilli, (Fri Feb 12, 12:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, luigi curzi, (Fri Feb 12, 11:53 am)