Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx]

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Date: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:55 pm

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 07:38:31PM +0100, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:

> how much of sound engineer and musician should be in

If you want to be a musician you need music in your
blood stream, to be a sound engineer in the usual
meaning of that term you need both music and technology.

The term 'sound engineer' is sort of a linguistic
mixup. Usually an 'X engineer' is someone who has
a good knowledge of the technology of X, and able
to apply that knowledge in a systematic way to the
the solution of practical problems. In many cases
it also implies formal training and certification.
The focus on technology and practical application
is what differentiates an engineer from a scientist
in the same field.

By that definition, most of the people called 'sound
engineeers' should maybe be called 'music engineers',
and the 'real' sound engineers according to that
definition are the ones usually called 'acoustic
engineers'.

But even the term 'music engineer' is too broad to
describe most 'sound engineers'. It implies a much
more universal knowledge - most people called 'sound
engineer' only know about one type of music and would
be completely lost when e.g. asked to record an opera
performance. That's not a reflection on their qualities
which can be exceptional, but on the usual meaning of
the term 'engineer'.

Apart from all this there is a second linguistic
mixup. In English the term 'engineer' refers to
engines and machines. The drivers of steam trains
were called engineeers. In roman languages the term
used sounds almost the same (French: ingenieur,
Italian: ingegnere), but has a different origin going
back the the Latin 'ingeniosus' meaning 'skilled'.

And strangely enough, in Italian today 'ingenuo'
means just the opposite: someone naive and easily
abused.

Ciao,

--
FA

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E guerra e morte !
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Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, hollunder, (Thu Feb 11, 9:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Emiliano Grilli, (Thu Feb 11, 10:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Fri Feb 12, 5:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Josh Lawrence, (Sat Feb 13, 5:40 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Atte André Jensen, (Fri Feb 12, 11:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, hermann, (Fri Feb 12, 6:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Thu Feb 11, 11:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Arve Barsnes, (Fri Feb 12, 9:39 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 10:23 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 8:21 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 10:35 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 11:42 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Viktor Mastoridis, (Fri Feb 12, 1:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Fri Feb 12, 6:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], , (Fri Feb 12, 11:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Atte André Jensen, (Sat Feb 13, 7:42 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: talent and craftsmanship [was: Re: OT: Dub Fx], Viktor Mastoridis, (Sat Feb 13, 10:57 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 12:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Fri Feb 12, 2:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Fri Feb 12, 12:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Esben Stien, (Sat Feb 13, 2:01 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Sat Feb 13, 10:40 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Sat Feb 13, 11:14 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Sat Feb 13, 1:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, david, (Sat Feb 13, 4:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, , (Sat Feb 13, 2:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, luigi curzi, (Sat Feb 13, 1:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Jeremy, (Sat Feb 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Folderol, (Sat Feb 13, 2:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, Emiliano Grilli, (Fri Feb 12, 12:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Dub Fx, luigi curzi, (Fri Feb 12, 11:53 am)