Re: [LAU] Ardour3

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To: Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee@...>
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Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 2:55 am

i don't really want to argue this too much, but i do think that its
pretty fallacious to propose that because Arch makes it relatively
easy (like gentoo) to wrap the use of an svn repository in a
package-related system that users of the result of this process will
understand that there is really no difference between an explicit
checkout of svn and management of one's repository, and the
package-related tool version.

the alpha testers for a3 to date have all been extremely clear that
you don't bother checking it out unless you intend to (a) get on the
commit mailing list (b) regularly svn update (possibly a few times a
day on days when they are testing). i understand (now) that there is
nothing about the pkgbuild system in Arch that prevents either of
these two from still being the case. however, i don't believe that
even a majority of people who use the method will understand the need
for (a) and (b) or even just the general nature of what they're
connected to.

there were 16 commits to svn within the last 20 hours. some of these
were deep changes to the way things work (though hopefully not
resulting in any visible breakage, we don't know, which is why its not
released yet). do you really think that arch linux users who are using
a pkgbuild to try this out have any grasp of what is going on?

maybe the answer, your answer, is "yes". i'm quite a bit more skeptical.
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[LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Mon Dec 20, 5:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Mon Dec 20, 5:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Mon Dec 20, 6:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Mon Dec 20, 6:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ray Rashif, (Tue Dec 21, 12:34 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Harry Van Haaren, (Tue Dec 21, 1:25 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ng Oon-Ee, (Tue Dec 21, 2:46 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Tue Dec 21, 2:55 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, drew Roberts, (Tue Dec 21, 1:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Tue Dec 21, 1:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, torbenh, (Tue Dec 21, 5:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ray Rashif, (Tue Dec 21, 3:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Tue Dec 21, 3:50 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Rick Green, (Tue Dec 21, 4:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Tue Dec 21, 5:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Thu Dec 23, 4:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, hermann, (Tue Dec 21, 6:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Tue Dec 21, 11:46 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ken Restivo, (Tue Dec 21, 8:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, fred, (Tue Dec 21, 11:56 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Lorenzo Sutton, (Tue Dec 21, 8:41 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Raffaele Morelli, (Tue Dec 21, 8:50 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Arve Barsnes, (Tue Dec 21, 12:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Thomas Vecchione, (Tue Dec 21, 1:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Tue Dec 21, 11:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ray Rashif, (Tue Dec 21, 4:24 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Tue Dec 21, 1:13 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Dieter Plaetinck, (Mon Dec 20, 6:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Mon Dec 20, 6:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Dieter Plaetinck, (Mon Dec 20, 6:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, R. Mattes, (Mon Dec 20, 7:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Mon Dec 20, 7:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Thomas Vecchione, (Tue Dec 21, 1:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Dec 21, 1:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Thomas Vecchione, (Thu Dec 23, 6:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Dave Phillips, (Tue Dec 21, 2:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, , (Tue Dec 21, 5:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Dave Phillips, (Tue Dec 21, 6:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Renato Budinich, (Tue Dec 21, 5:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Jeremy Jongepier, (Tue Dec 21, 2:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Tue Dec 21, 2:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Tue Dec 21, 2:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Tue Dec 21, 2:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Tue Dec 21, 2:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Dave Phillips, (Tue Dec 21, 3:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Philipp Überbacher, (Tue Dec 21, 3:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Tue Dec 21, 4:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ken Restivo, (Tue Dec 21, 6:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Tue Dec 21, 7:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, drew Roberts, (Wed Dec 22, 12:12 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, fred, (Tue Dec 21, 7:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Mark Knecht, (Tue Dec 21, 7:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, michael noble, (Wed Dec 22, 1:26 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Wed Dec 22, 2:19 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ng Oon-Ee, (Wed Dec 22, 4:08 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Mark Knecht, (Wed Dec 22, 1:46 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, drew Roberts, (Wed Dec 22, 12:15 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, fred, (Wed Dec 22, 7:18 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Louigi Verona, (Wed Dec 22, 7:25 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ng Oon-Ee, (Wed Dec 22, 9:40 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, michael noble, (Wed Dec 22, 8:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Tue Dec 21, 3:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Jeremy Jongepier, (Tue Dec 21, 2:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Jonathan Gazeley, (Tue Dec 21, 4:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Mon Dec 20, 7:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Mon Dec 20, 7:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ken Restivo, (Tue Dec 21, 1:33 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Tue Dec 21, 2:18 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Renato, (Mon Dec 20, 10:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, paul feitzinger, (Mon Dec 20, 10:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Renato, (Mon Dec 20, 10:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Ng Oon-Ee, (Tue Dec 21, 1:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Fabio, (Mon Dec 20, 6:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Mon Dec 20, 6:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Paul Davis, (Mon Dec 20, 6:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ardour3, Bernardo Barros, (Mon Dec 20, 6:19 pm)