Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux

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To: Ken Restivo <ken@...>
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Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 7:45 am

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"The real work is in collecting and organizing the music, and organizing
your controller's workflow to make performance smooth and interesting, as
Moldover has done."

I wish that was true, but I understand what Renato says about diving into
technical details and spending more time programming or configuring things
rather than working on music. Organizing is important, but when Sooperlooper
simply does not display what loop is being played and you need around 20
loops at the very least when 4 already take up the whole screen -
Sooperlooper's ability to be controllerism software, which requires clarity
of interface and quick workflow, becomes too theoretical.

I absolutely do not want to say that Linux software is not capable of
providing controllerism in question, but at the moment - let's say, it is
not trivial. And for a musician who is not a programmer - basically, close
to impossible.

I would love to be proven wrong, because then I would use this solution on
Linux myself. But at the moment all discussions along the lines of "You
could just as easily do some controllerism stuff with a hacked Novation of
your own, or an Arduino, or a Monome, and just about any looper" feel like
the person who is saying it did not really try. Especially, the word
"easily" grates on the ears.

=)

--
Louigi Verona
http://www.louigiverona.ru/

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programming or configuring things rather than working on music. Organizing =
is important, but when Sooperlooper simply does not display what loop is be=
ing played and you need around 20 loops at the very least when 4 already ta=
ke up the whole screen - Sooperlooper's ability to be controllerism sof=
tware, which requires clarity of interface and quick workflow, becomes too =
theoretical.
I absolutely do not want to say that Linux software is not capable of p=
roviding controllerism in question, but at the moment - let's say, it i=
s not trivial. And for a musician who is not a programmer - basically, clos=
e to impossible.
I would love to be proven wrong, because then I would use this solution=
on Linux myself. But at the moment all discussions along the lines of &quo=
t;You could just as easily do some controllerism stuff with a hacked=20
Novation of your own, or an Arduino, or a Monome, and just about any=20
looper" feel like the person who is saying it did not really try. Espe=
cially, the word "easily" grates on the ears.=3D)-- Louigi Veronahttp://www.louigiverona.ru/

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[LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Sat Nov 27, 4:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Ken Restivo, (Sat Dec 18, 3:43 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Nov 28, 8:24 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Paul Davis, (Sun Nov 28, 3:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Nov 29, 9:27 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Louigi Verona, (Mon Nov 29, 9:52 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Malte Steiner, (Tue Nov 30, 9:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun Nov 28, 7:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Paul Davis, (Sun Nov 28, 8:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun Nov 28, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Louigi Verona, (Sun Nov 28, 10:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Sun Nov 28, 10:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Mon Nov 29, 11:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Rui Nuno Capela, (Tue Nov 30, 8:37 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Hartmut Noack, (Tue Nov 30, 11:12 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, F. Medeiros, (Tue Nov 30, 4:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, michael noble, (Tue Nov 30, 1:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Rui Nuno Capela, (Tue Nov 30, 11:30 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Rui Nuno Capela, (Tue Nov 30, 11:56 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Jeremy Jongepier, (Tue Nov 30, 11:50 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Louigi Verona, (Tue Nov 30, 6:36 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Louigi Verona, (Mon Nov 29, 7:38 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Ken Restivo, (Sun Nov 28, 5:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Robin Gareus, (Sun Nov 28, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Robin Gareus, (Sun Nov 28, 6:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Nov 28, 8:38 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Esben Stien, (Sat Nov 27, 7:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Sat Nov 27, 9:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Ken Restivo, (Sun Nov 28, 3:15 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Louigi Verona, (Sun Nov 28, 7:45 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato Budinich, (Sun Nov 28, 9:40 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Ken Restivo, (Sun Nov 28, 7:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Sat Nov 27, 5:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Harry Van Haaren, (Sat Nov 27, 5:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Paul Davis, (Sat Nov 27, 5:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Sat Nov 27, 5:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Louigi Verona, (Sat Nov 27, 6:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Sat Nov 27, 9:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, david, (Sat Nov 27, 10:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Paul Davis, (Sat Nov 27, 9:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Renato, (Sat Nov 27, 10:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Ken Restivo, (Sun Nov 28, 8:37 am)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Sat Nov 27, 5:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] controllerism on linux, Paul Davis, (Sat Nov 27, 5:09 pm)