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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Joel Roth  wrote:

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> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 09:51:13PM +0400, alex stone wrote:

>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM, alex stone  wrote:

>> > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Joel Roth  wrote:

>> >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 04:52:38PM +0400, alex stone wrote:

>> >>> I get the following error when attempting to start nama:

>> >>>

>> >>> illegal return value, stopped at

>> >>> /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio/Nama.pm line 1421.

>> >>>

>> >>> The app then stops.

>> >>

>> >>> For those using this (and this is my first time), is this a regular

>> >>> error, or am i deep in the swamp with the alligators circling, so to

>> >>> speak?

>> >>

>> >> Hi Alex,

>> >>

>> >> That (admittedly cryptic) message means that

>> >> Nama sent a command to Ecasound using the Ecasound's Net-ECI

>> >> interface, and got a return value other than 256.

>> >>

>> >> I don't know much about it, except that it has happened

>> >> before. The alligators usually swim off. :-)

>> >>

>> >> To help me understand your environment can I ask:

>> >>

>> >> - what OS version are you using?

>> >> - how did you install Nama?

>> >> - how did you install Ecasound?

>> >>

>> >> Here are some things to try:

>> >>

>> >> 1) Start Nama with the -D (debugging info) flag.

>> >> You'll see what was sent and what came back before Nama

>> >> decided to fall on its sword.

>> >>

>> >> 2) Start Ecasound in server mode in a separate terminal with debugging

>> >> turned on:

>> >>

>> >>    ecasound -K -ddd --server

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Then start Nama again.  This will enable you to observe what

>> >> happens in Ecasound.

>> >>

>> >> 3) Install Audio::Ecasound to provide an alternative

>> >> interface to Net-ECI.

>> >>

>> >>    cpan Audio::Ecasound

>> >>

>> >>    -OR-

>> >>

>> >>    apt-get install libaudio-ecasound-perl

>> >>

>> >>    (The package is available for Debian 'sid' but will install

>> >>    on any Debian distribution.)

>> >>

>> >> Note that Nama will always use Audio::Ecasound if available.

>> >> You will need to use the -n flag if you want to force it to

>> >> use Net-ECI.

>> >>

>> >> Hope this helps.

>> >>

>> >> Joel

>> >>

>> >>> Alex.

>> >

>> > Joel, i'm well and truly lost here, (first time using perl,Cpan, etc)

>> > but here's the info:

>> >

>> > Ecasound 2.6.0 installed from an ebuild in Gentoo. (64bit)

>

>> > I tried nama from cpan, removed it (with the intent of trying again),

>> > then after the 2nd try it told me nama was up to date. Good to know,

>> > but how do i then install it from there? first time (obviously) it

>> > installed the app automatically. 2nd time, well, the alligators are

>> > laughing their heads off at my ineptitude.....

>> > I assume from this, there's a nama module on my system somewhere that

>> > i have to somehow bring to life.

>

> Yes, in /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio/Nama.pm

> according to your error message above.

>

> (And also the stuff in /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio/Nama/)

>

>> > Alex.

>> >

>> > p.s. On the nama site it says i can install cpan

>> > audio::ecasound::multitrack (presumably a clever way to install nama),

>> > but when i try, it tells me the module is not in the repo. Have i

>> > misunderstood this? And is the version up to date?

>

> A::E::M is an old name for the module...

>

> Your version is up-to-date (at least relative to CPAN).

>

> Does Nama crash repeatedly? If so, I'm happy to have an

> opportunity to understand this problem better.

>

> I suggest you try:

>

> $ nama -D

>

> This will show a lot of debug information. The last

> thing you see spit out to the terminal before Nama crashes

> may be useful :-)

>

> Please let me know what happens!

>

>

> Next, as a workaround, try installing Audio::Ecasound, the same way

> you installed Nama.

>

> $ cpan Audio::Ecasound

>

>> Joel, i've got the docs open, so i'll learn a bit about basic cpan

>> commands, and see what happens from there.

>

> You shouldn't need to know much to use the cpan client, but

> of course, more knowledge helps -- sometimes just to

> make bigger, better mistakes. :-) :-)

>

> Joel

>

> --

> Joel Roth

>

I'd appreciate the help! Nama won't start unless i cd to the dir it's

in, and i can only start it with
perl Nama.pm
It then attempts to start, but crashes before i get anywhere near a

gui. Here's the error:
alex@parchmentstudios /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio $ perl Nama.pm

Can't locate Params/Util.pm in @INC (@INC contains:

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/x86_64-linux-thread-multi

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2

/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.2/x86_64-linux-thread-multi

/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.2

/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.2/x86_64-linux-thread-multi

/usr/lib64/perl5/5.12.2 /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl

/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl .) at

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Data/OptList.pm line 7.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Data/OptList.pm line 7.

Compilation failed in require at

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Sub/Exporter.pm line 7.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Sub/Exporter.pm line 7.

Compilation failed in require at

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Data/Section.pm line 13.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at

/usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Data/Section.pm line 13.

Compilation failed in require at Nama.pm line 49.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Nama.pm line 49.

alex@parchmentstudios /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio $
Params::Util is installed as a module.
I can't help thinking i'm missing something basic here.
Audio::Ecasound is already installed, but i suspect there's a rogue

install i did from an Ebuild (server shows net-aci or whatever it is),

so i'm off to excise the last of that, and see what happens.
Alex.
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