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On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 09:51:13PM +0400, alex stone wrote:

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> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM, alex stone  wrote:

> > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Joel Roth  wrote:

> >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 04:52:38PM +0400, alex stone wrote:

> >>> I get the following error when attempting to start nama:

> >>>

> >>> illegal return value, stopped at

> >>> /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio/Nama.pm line 1421.

> >>>

> >>> The app then stops.

> >>

> >>> For those using this (and this is my first time), is this a regular

> >>> error, or am i deep in the swamp with the alligators circling, so to

> >>> speak?

> >>

> >> Hi Alex,

> >>

> >> That (admittedly cryptic) message means that

> >> Nama sent a command to Ecasound using the Ecasound's Net-ECI

> >> interface, and got a return value other than 256.

> >>

> >> I don't know much about it, except that it has happened

> >> before. The alligators usually swim off. :-)

> >>

> >> To help me understand your environment can I ask:

> >>

> >> - what OS version are you using?

> >> - how did you install Nama?

> >> - how did you install Ecasound?

> >>

> >> Here are some things to try:

> >>

> >> 1) Start Nama with the -D (debugging info) flag.

> >> You'll see what was sent and what came back before Nama

> >> decided to fall on its sword.

> >>

> >> 2) Start Ecasound in server mode in a separate terminal with debugging

> >> turned on:

> >>

> >>    ecasound -K -ddd --server

> >>

> >>

> >> Then start Nama again.  This will enable you to observe what

> >> happens in Ecasound.

> >>

> >> 3) Install Audio::Ecasound to provide an alternative

> >> interface to Net-ECI.

> >>

> >>    cpan Audio::Ecasound

> >>

> >>    -OR-

> >>

> >>    apt-get install libaudio-ecasound-perl

> >>

> >>    (The package is available for Debian 'sid' but will install

> >>    on any Debian distribution.)

> >>

> >> Note that Nama will always use Audio::Ecasound if available.

> >> You will need to use the -n flag if you want to force it to

> >> use Net-ECI.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps.

> >>

> >> Joel

> >>

> >>> Alex.

> >

> > Joel, i'm well and truly lost here, (first time using perl,Cpan, etc)

> > but here's the info:

> >

> > Ecasound 2.6.0 installed from an ebuild in Gentoo. (64bit)

> > I tried nama from cpan, removed it (with the intent of trying again),

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> > then after the 2nd try it told me nama was up to date. Good to know,

> > but how do i then install it from there? first time (obviously) it

> > installed the app automatically. 2nd time, well, the alligators are

> > laughing their heads off at my ineptitude.....

> > I assume from this, there's a nama module on my system somewhere that

> > i have to somehow bring to life.

Yes, in /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio/Nama.pm

according to your error message above.
(And also the stuff in /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Audio/Nama/)
> > Alex.

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> >

> > p.s. On the nama site it says i can install cpan

> > audio::ecasound::multitrack (presumably a clever way to install nama),

> > but when i try, it tells me the module is not in the repo. Have i

> > misunderstood this? And is the version up to date?

A::E::M is an old name for the module... 
Your version is up-to-date (at least relative to CPAN).
Does Nama crash repeatedly? If so, I'm happy to have an

opportunity to understand this problem better.
I suggest you try:
$ nama -D 
This will show a lot of debug information. The last

thing you see spit out to the terminal before Nama crashes

may be useful :-) 
Please let me know what happens!
Next, as a workaround, try installing Audio::Ecasound, the same way

you installed Nama.
$ cpan Audio::Ecasound
> Joel, i've got the docs open, so i'll learn a bit about basic cpan

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> commands, and see what happens from there.

You shouldn't need to know much to use the cpan client, but

of course, more knowledge helps -- sometimes just to

make bigger, better mistakes. :-) :-)
Joel
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Joel Roth

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