Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?

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To: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora@...>, linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 8:52 pm

On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:22:52 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote

more complicated then Python.
So why Java?

And is this bold statement based on any remotely real fact or just restating
some blunder you overheard
on the internet? Sorry, I'm sick of hearing the same old claims over and over.
A decent moder JVM with
JIT has more than enogh performance (definitely comparable to python or ruby).
But, more important,
performance hardly ever is a problem nowadays. Even with my graphics-heavy
desktop my system has a load
average 0f 0.03 % - meaning it's mainly running idle ..

>

Culture - lot's of (good) frameworks for enterprise computing with good
documentation. Engineering
aproach to programming, thousands of reasons _not_ relevant outside the
business/enterprise world.
But that's where most of programmings lives. So, iff you educate for this
market, you better do it
in Java. I _never_ encountered a company doing in-house development in C++.

> Also Java code is slightly more portable

I's not the code that's portable, it's the binaries. Try to use a library
_compiled_ with C++ compiler A
with a program compiled with compiler B on the same box! You can sell Java
class files and run them on
anything from Windows, Mac, Linux to TueUinx, Solaris (rip) and AS400 mainframes.

HTH RalfD

> Orcan

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Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg
rm@inm.mh-freiburg.de

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[LAU] OT: C or C++?, Josh Lawrence, (Wed Oct 13, 8:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Josh Lawrence, (Fri Oct 15, 12:26 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Ken Restivo, (Thu Oct 21, 12:12 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Atte André Jensen, (Mon Oct 18, 10:25 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, James Morris, (Thu Oct 14, 1:30 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Thu Oct 14, 1:17 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Josh Lawrence, (Thu Oct 14, 3:06 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Thu Oct 14, 4:17 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Ng Oon-Ee, (Thu Oct 14, 5:49 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Thu Oct 14, 8:40 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Tim Clewlow, (Thu Oct 14, 12:28 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Thu Oct 14, 1:05 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Tim Clewlow, (Thu Oct 14, 1:37 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, david, (Thu Oct 14, 8:50 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Arnold Krille, (Wed Oct 13, 11:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, , (Wed Oct 13, 10:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Folderol, (Wed Oct 13, 10:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, , (Wed Oct 13, 10:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Robin Gareus, (Wed Oct 13, 10:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Bjoern Lindig, (Thu Oct 14, 6:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Robin Gareus, (Thu Oct 14, 7:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Philipp Überbacher, (Thu Oct 14, 3:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Wed Oct 13, 9:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Thu Oct 14, 1:11 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Joshua Boyd, (Thu Oct 14, 3:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Erik de Castro Lopo, (Thu Oct 14, 8:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: 2 minute intro to type systems (was C or C++?), Erik de Castro Lopo, (Thu Oct 14, 8:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: 2 minute intro to type systems (was C or C++?), Erik de Castro Lopo, (Fri Oct 15, 10:51 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: 2 minute intro to type systems (was C or C++?), Philipp Überbacher, (Fri Oct 15, 6:30 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: 2 minute intro to type systems (was C or C++?), Harry Van Haaren, (Thu Oct 14, 9:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Bernardo Barros, (Thu Oct 14, 4:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Nick Dokos, (Thu Oct 14, 3:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Thu Oct 14, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, R. Mattes, (Thu Oct 14, 4:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Thu Oct 14, 5:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Kris Calabio, (Thu Oct 14, 5:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Philipp Überbacher, (Thu Oct 14, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, R. Mattes, (Thu Oct 14, 8:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Philipp Überbacher, (Fri Oct 15, 7:13 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Simon Wise, (Fri Oct 15, 11:28 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, R. Mattes, (Fri Oct 15, 9:31 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Dave Phillips, (Fri Oct 15, 10:23 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, James Morris, (Fri Oct 15, 7:43 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, david, (Fri Oct 15, 7:21 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Philipp Überbacher, (Fri Oct 15, 7:45 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, david, (Sun Oct 17, 8:53 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Kris Calabio, (Thu Oct 14, 8:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Bernardo Barros, (Thu Oct 14, 8:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Ken Restivo, (Thu Oct 21, 12:17 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Folderol, (Thu Oct 14, 9:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Veronica Merryfield, (Thu Oct 14, 8:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Orcan Ogetbil, (Thu Oct 14, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, R. Mattes, (Thu Oct 14, 8:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Philipp Überbacher, (Fri Oct 15, 6:55 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, , (Thu Oct 14, 9:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Brett McCoy, (Thu Oct 14, 9:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Orcan Ogetbil, (Thu Oct 14, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, R. Mattes, (Thu Oct 14, 9:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Orcan Ogetbil, (Thu Oct 14, 9:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Chris Cannam, (Thu Oct 14, 9:23 am)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Gabriel M. Beddingfield, (Thu Oct 14, 2:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Charles , (Wed Oct 13, 10:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: C or C++?, Charles Henry, (Wed Oct 13, 10:07 pm)