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Okay, I'd like to try this arrangement with the

cables/patch-bays/etc., though I currently need monitor speakers and

am just using headphones-
>From sources to mixer:

1. 4 XLRs (mics) into Mackie strips 1-4

2. 1 Line In (from guitar amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 5

3. 1 Line In (from another amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 6

4. 2 Line Ins (from "Master Out" (L&R) of elec.drumset) into Mackie strip "9-10"

(Also hooking elec.drumset's MIDI up to the Delta 1010 dig.rec.system)

(Also hooking up USB/MIDI keyboard/controller to computer)
>From mixer to digital recording system:

5. 4 TRSs (from Mackie Direct Outs 1-4) into Delta inputs 1-4

6. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 5) into Delta input 5

7. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 6) into Delta input 6

8. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Sub Outs 1-2, with "1-2" enabled) into Delta inputs 7-8
>From digital recording system to mixer:

9. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 1-2) into Mackie strip "13-14", with "L/R" enabled

10. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 3-4) into Mackie strip "15-16", with "L/R" enabled

11. 1 TRS (from Delta out 5) into Mackie strip 7, with "L/R" enabled

12. 1 TRS (from Delta out 6) into Mackie strip 8, with "L/R" enabled

13. 2 TRSs (from Delta outs 7-8) into Mackie strip "11-12", with "L/R" enabled
>From mixer to PA:

14. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Main Outs L&R) into PA channels 1 & 2
>From PA to speakers:

15. 2 TRSs (from the 2 PA Outs) into 2 monitor speakers
I don't know... would that set-up work?
My hunch is using the PA is overkill in a home recording situation,

though perhaps appropriate in a live setting. It has 4 channels, so

that opens up an additional 2 free channels for 1 more stereo source.

Right?
Well, that's my attempt at using every single strip on the mixer. ;) I

hope I didn't totally mutilate the patching order.
Here's my attempt at a more immediate set-up for home recording and

monitoring via headphones:
>From sources to mixer:

1. 4 XLRs (mics) into Mackie strips 1-4

2. 1 Line In (from guitar amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 5

3. 1 Line In (from another amp "Line Out") into Mackie strip 6

4. 2 Line Ins (from "Master Out" (L&R) of elec.drumset) into Mackie strip "9-10"

(Also hooking up elec.drumset's MIDI to the Delta 1010 dig.rec.system)

(Also hooking up USB/MIDI keyboard/controller to computer)
>From mixer to digital recording system:

5. 4 TRSs (from Mackie Direct Outs 1-4) into Delta inputs 1-4

6. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 5) into Delta input 5

7. 1 TRS (from Mackie Direct Out 6) into Delta input 6

8. 2 TRSs (from Mackie Sub Outs 1-2, with "1-2" enabled) into Delta inputs 7-8
>From digital recording system to mixer:

9. 2 TRSs (from Delta Outs 1-2) into Mackie strip "15-16", with "L/R" enabled

(Using the Delta Outs 1-2 as Main Mix)
>From mixer to headphones:

10. Enable "Main Mix 'Source'" on Mackie & adjust phones volume w/

phones in phones port "A" on the Mackie
I do plan on getting monitor speakers, and I do have normal computer

speakers (Harmon-Kardon "2.1", not sure how I could implement those in

this set-up) but I'll need to otherwise make do with headphones for

now.
I'd like to be able to use the 6 extra Delta Outs, the Mackie's subs

3-4, all of the extra Sub Outs on the back of the Mackie, the

remaining two Direct outs (7 & 8) on the Mackie, the remaining Ins on

the Mackie (7, 8, 11-12, & 13-14), and of course the Aux features

would be auxsome... I mean awesome. All in due time. :)
Anyway, did I do anything wrong with the patch set-ups above, in

particular the 2nd one - with 10 steps - that ends up monitoring via

headphones?
Thanks!
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Scott Ecker  wrote:

quoted text
> Ectropic Harmony wrote:

>> I've recently started adding new gear to my studio, which isn't much...

>>

>> Here's the list...

>>

>> Instruments:

>> Acoustic & electric guitars

>> Bass guitar

>> Electronic drumset (a very nice Roland, MIDI but also has direct

>> outs/main outs (1/4" TRS))

>> USB/MIDI keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 49)

>> Various other instruments, percussion, winds, strings

>>

>> Misc. gear:

>> Amps (combos, i.e. Marshall, TubeWorks)

>> Power amp (not currently using this, it's a 4 channel PA)

>>

>> Recording gear:

>> 4 mics (AT2020s)

>> Mixer (Mackie 1642-VLZ3, 16 channel 4 bus analog mixer)

>> Digital audio interface (M-Audio Delta 1010)

>> Computer (64-bit quad core 2.6GHz CPU, 4GB RAM, 3TB space; running

>> Ubuntu Studio 9.10)

>>

>> The new equipment is the recording gear - specifically the Mackie

>> mixer, the Delta 1010 audio interface, and the mics.

>>

>

> This isn't too unlike my setup, except that I have an acoustic drum

> kit.  The keys to successful acoustic recording (IMO):

>

> 1. Good microphones.

> 2. Good cables.

> 3. Good mixer.

> 4. Good room.

>

> The rest of it comes down to mic placement, and the quality of the

> musicians themselves.  The difference between the cheap and modestly

> priced components above will manifest itself in hiss and line noise.

> Every step in the chain must be good (or better) quality to get a smooth

> recording.

>

> My setup is tubes and acoustics all the way to my DAW.  Ardour is

> amazing and does everything I need to record 12+ tracks simultaneously.

>

> -Scott

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