Re: [LAU] pulseaudio issues [was Re: jackdbus issues: a workaround ? (Was: more jack/qjackctl madness)]

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Date: Friday, May 22, 2009 - 11:13 pm

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> Paul Davis wrote:

This actually paints quite a good picture of the situation since the truth =
may be worse. The lack of a single leadership to direct developments is tha=
t Linux has become unbelievably segmented to the point where it is no longe=
r a single operating system - it is several tens of them. They all position=
themselves under the same umbrella but the feature sets=2C libraries=2C ma=
intenance capabilities are very=2C very diverse to the point where the only=
commonality is the name.

As Paul says=2C roughly=2C its anarchy. If you like that then work with it =
but don't expect things to be easy for a long time=2C if ever. If you like =
it then accept having your computer right on the edge of stability since yo=
u will be mixing applications/drivers that work on one distribution and 'al=
most' work on another and some of these have to work together which is a ve=
ry big demand/expectation. If you don't like that idea then there are other=
operating systems available=2C just put your money on the table. Life is f=
ull of choices and what goes into and out of your wallet is one of them but=
don't expect any of those choices to be correct. If it were that simple th=
ere would only be a single OS and it would probably not be called something=
as generic as Linux for the simple reason that Linux is no longer 'one' OS=
.

Regards=2C and power to your debuging tools.

_________________________________________________________________
Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out!
http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_0120...

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&gt=3B Paul Davis wrote:&gt=3B&gt=3B Its not politics. Its the lack=
of politics. There are no leaders with&gt=3B any power to enforce any =
decisions. There is no police authority to&gt=3B identify people who fa=
il to comply with "joint decisions". There is no&gt=3B justice system t=
o punish or expel those who do. This is an anarchistic&gt=3B meritocrac=
y=2C and yes=2C its harder to get system infrastructure&gt=3B developed=
in this environment than in a system like windows or OS X&gt=3B where =
a single person can say "it shall be thus". thats good=2C and its&gt=3B=
bad.This actually paints quite a good picture of the situation sin=
ce the truth may be worse. The lack of a single leadership to direct develo=
pments is that Linux has become unbelievably segmented to the point where i=
t is no longer a single operating system - it is several tens of them. They=
all position themselves under the same umbrella but the feature sets=2C li=
braries=2C maintenance capabilities are very=2C very diverse to the point w=
here the only commonality is the name.As Paul says=2C roughly=2C it=
s anarchy. If you like that then work with it but don't expect things to be=
easy for a long time=2C if ever. If you like it then accept having your co=
mputer right on the edge of stability since you will be mixing applications=
/drivers that work on one distribution and 'almost' work on another and som=
e of these have to work together which is a very big demand/expectation. If=
you don't like that idea then there are other operating systems available=
=2C just put your money on the table. Life is full of choices and what goes=
into and out of your wallet is one of them but don't expect any of those c=
hoices to be correct. If it were that simple there would only be a single O=
S and it would probably not be called something as generic as Linux for the=
simple reason that Linux is no longer 'one' OS.Regards=2C and powe=
r to your debuging tools.Windows Live=99: Keep your life in=
sync. Check it out!
=

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[LAU] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sat May 16, 10:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, MarcO'Chapeau, (Sun May 17, 7:51 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, St├ęphane Letz, (Sun May 17, 7:36 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 10:51 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Brent Busby, (Sun May 17, 2:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 4:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 5:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Sun May 17, 5:37 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun May 17, 11:59 pm)
[LAU] , MarcO'Chapeau, (Mon May 18, 9:12 am)
Re: [LAU] pulseaudio issues [was Re: jackdbus issues: a work..., Nick Copeland, (Fri May 22, 11:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] , MarcO'Chapeau, (Mon May 18, 1:28 pm)
[LAU] What are we talking about. (Was: KILL DBUS), MarcO'Chapeau, (Mon May 18, 2:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] What are we talking about. (Was: KILL DBUS), Chris Cannam, (Mon May 18, 9:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] What are we talking about. (Was: KILL DBUS), Ken Restivo, (Tue May 19, 6:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] What are we talking about., Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 3:18 pm)
[LAU] The simple thruth about jack-dbus, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon May 18, 4:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] The simple thruth about jack-dbus, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 4:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] The simple thruth about jack-dbus, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Mon May 18, 4:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] The simple thruth about jack-dbus, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 5:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] The simple thruth about jack-dbus, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 6:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] What are we talking about. (Was: KILL..., St├ęphane Letz, (Mon May 18, 2:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] What are we talking about., Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 3:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Rui Nuno Capela, (Mon May 18, 8:06 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 10:45 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, drew Roberts, (Mon May 18, 12:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 2:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Mark Knecht, (Mon May 18, 12:27 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Mark Knecht, (Sun May 17, 6:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon May 18, 12:34 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 10:39 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, drew Roberts, (Mon May 18, 12:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Paul Davis, (Sun May 17, 3:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Nedko Arnaudov, (Mon May 18, 10:42 am)
Re: [LAU] [Jack-Devel] more jack/qjackctl madness, Joe Hartley, (Sun May 17, 3:38 pm)