[LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess

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Date: Friday, August 29, 2008 - 9:15 am

Very little has progressed since the last thread here. Really. New features
and fixes have gone into nted and denemo but do a song on them?

Here's the score, he he:

mscore -- promises to be the opensource Sibelius. Great program, somewhat
funny but very usable UI. I have not succeeded in doing a song start to finish
on this goody. Will hang up the system at some point and big-red-switch time.
I can import musicXML and edit from there. The program will not save chord
symbols on scores imported from musicXML (which apparently does not support
them, but mscore certain works fine with chord symbols otherwise!).

Denemo --The lilipond front-end finally has a useful feature set.

Many of the newer programs force upon the user too much "theory." Partial
measures, i.e. starting on the upbeat, are a common enough device in music.
Mscore makes one select the lead measure and set its length property. Notedit,
sinply place the bar! Denemo? A future incarnation, I suppose. Denemo will not
import lilipond files from noteedit.

Nted -- one successor to noteedit. Has similar limitations as denemo.

Canorus -- one successor to notdedit. Heard of this lately? Last version was
nowheres near ready to play.

Rosegarden -- has been around a while. I could not get into scoring with it.
Same idea of too much imposed "theory." Unfortunately, is segfaults out right
now so can do no more with it.

Noteedit -- old, no longer developed or supported -- but with its hoky-poky
interface, still easier for select and click note entry than any of the others
and gets the job done, period.

Noteedit Auto-adds measures as needed but lets one edit as one pleases
including partial measures. (I guess the paradigm in ALL the other programs of
presenting rest-filled-out measures all the time is what I do not like about
them.) If lead-sheet chord symbol entry were more convenient, I might look
nowhere else. Exports to lilypond (not 100% correctly but usually prints OK),
musicXML, abc, musixTEX and MIDI which will get you into most other programs.
I wish the successors would import its files directly--if they claim to be
successors, this would make some sense!

OT-aside: What does rosegarden (and noteedit) need with KDE? QT would
certainly be sufficient, and not dealing with KDE's excess baggage might solve
a lot of the crashing problems. I run KDE3 and KDE4 all the time, love 'em,
but requiring its libraries for these programs makes little sense.

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[LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, David Baron, (Fri Aug 29, 9:15 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Atte André Jensen, (Sun Sep 7, 12:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, svoufff at free, (Sun Sep 7, 7:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Tom Dunstan, (Thu Sep 11, 12:12 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, svoufff at free, (Fri Sep 12, 4:59 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Atte André Jensen, (Mon Sep 8, 8:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Grammostola Rosea, (Sun Sep 7, 1:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, David Baron, (Sun Sep 7, 3:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Grammostola Rosea, (Sat Aug 30, 9:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, v4hn, (Sat Aug 30, 10:55 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, David Baron, (Sat Aug 30, 7:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Grammostola Rosea, (Tue Sep 9, 6:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Markus Schwarzenberg, (Mon Sep 1, 7:27 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, david, (Fri Aug 29, 7:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Bob van der Poel, (Fri Aug 29, 4:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Atte André Jensen, (Sun Sep 7, 12:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Bob van der Poel, (Sun Sep 7, 5:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Philippe Hezaine, (Mon Sep 8, 6:54 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, David Baron, (Sun Sep 7, 8:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Bob van der Poel, (Mon Sep 8, 12:43 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Grammostola Rosea, (Sun Sep 7, 7:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Grammostola Rosea, (Sun Sep 7, 7:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Bob van der Poel, (Mon Sep 8, 12:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Notation: The State of the Mess, Stephen Doonan, (Sun Sep 7, 8:06 pm)