> I appreciate everyone's input. Not sure what to do right now, since from
> what i hear in linux there are many different tools you need to use for a
> track. I definitely try to as much as possible to have 'total recal'
> functionality from sequencing all the way to mastering.
>
> I will try the music related linux build OS that was suggested and see where
> i go from there. I guess my main thing is that i want to spend most of the
> time working with music and not tinkering with, not sure if this describes
> it, "programming issues."
>
> Thank you everyone.
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Arda Eden wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> > I was using Windows and the music software working under it until I made a
> long conversation with Mr. Richard STALLMAN 2 - 3 weeks ago. Now I removed
> Windows and related DAW software. As a Free-Software user I believe that
> without using Free Software we cannot have Free Software. What I try to mean
> is, our ideas and opinions as being Free software users is really necessary
> for the developers of Free Software. Free software is going to develop in a
> parallel way to our needs. believe that using it is a great contribution to
> developing.
> >
> > So,
> > Protools, Cubase, Logic and etc. really gives us too many opportunities.
> Yes, Ardour, Rosegarden and the others may not be as strong as their windows
> counterparts. But they will be soon. We also had too many Plug-ins in VST
> like Amplitube, waves and others on Windows and Macos platforms but,
> > As an Ardour user (for nearly 2 - 3 weeks) I really liked some LADSPA
> plug-ins. I'm playing electric guitars and Amplitube was really great but
> now I returned to my SM57 and my Tube amplifier back. Now i'm not using FM7
> or FM8. I turned back in to my 20 years old DX7, JV80, WO5/R etc. Wow, i've
> missed them. :) Bu sure that they sound greater than the software ones. Also
> there are some LADSPA plug-ins that can simulate amplifiers, valves and
> other effects too. They work real great.
> >
> > I remember a word from Mr. Charles DYE - a great mix man - which is "If I
> had bla bla plug-ins thing could work better. NO, you don't need bla bla
> plug-ins to make a great job. Just work Hard."
> >
> > Please use Free Software and give support.
> >
> > I respect every user and developer on this list.
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Chuckk Hubbard
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:52 AM, JiNN wrote:
> > > > project. This, of course means a lot of CPU since i try to do as much
> > > > as possible without rendering it to .wav and back, since this takes
> time,
> > > > especially for little changes when mixing. Another issue is the
> > > > windows 2gig ram application limit. I hit this a couple of times and
> was
> > > > left in a dead end as to what to do. Vista is probably out of the
> option
> > > > right
> > >
> > > One nice thing about ext3, the default filesystem for most Linux
> > > distributions, is that you almost never have to defragment the drive.
> > > That's not the same as using RAM efficiently, but it is very handy...
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2) I assume linux is a lot better with RAM than windows, and was
> curious if
> > > > there are any people who are on this list
> > > > that actually switched over and could tell me if they really could
> "do" a
> > > > lot more in linux with the same hardware specs than in windows.
> > > > Does linux have some sort of application RAM limit?
> > >
> > > If nothing else, applications are less likely to be mysteriously added
> > > to your boot process automatically. Unfortunately, figuring out how
> > > to make a program NOT start automatically when it does so by default
> > > is actually quite harder on Linux. Killing a program that you don't
> > > want to be running is far more reliable in Linux... sometimes too
> > > reliable- if Windows won't let you kill a necessary system process,
> > > Linux doesn't even warn you...
> > >
> > >
> > > > 3) What is everyone's favority sequencer for linux? I know there are a
> > > > couple of them. Which one is your favorite?
> > >
> > > I wrote my own sequencer for microtonal music in Pure Data. I use it
> > > and Csound extensively, though neither is standard sequencer fare. I
> > > have found Rosegarden sufficient for that, but I have heard of others
> > > not finding it so. I do believe Linux is way behind in this
> > > department, partially because programming efficient and powerful user
> > > interfaces is BORING, and no one pays Linux developers to do it, so, I
> > > suspect, they let those kinds of things lag a bit; the software can DO
> > > great things, but it's not always easy to use. Ardour may be the
> > > exception, and someone was contracted to add MIDI sequencing support
> > > to it last summer. He did so, but to this day I don't believe his
> > > improvements have been added to the main branch >:(
> > >
> > >
> > > > 4) I have never used linux before. Would it be better for me to
> install
> > > > linux first and after im comfortable try audio on it?
> > >
> > > In my experience this is a good idea; audio was really the only reason
> > > I wanted to use Linux, but that made me pretty miserable when trying
> > > to learn very basic things, realizing I was struggling to understand
> > > certain concepts and that even when I did understand them, I was
> > > barely any closer to making the music I wanted to make. Some people
> > > on this list may tell you, I was a huffy puffy bitch sometimes.
> > > Some key things to check out if you want to kickstart your audio
> > > setup: Jack, chrt, realtime preemption, kernel building, aconnect (for
> > > connecting MIDI apps, something like MIDIYoke), top and htop (for
> > > checking CPU and memory usage), and bash scripting. As others
> > > mentioned, you often string several programs together to do the
> > > necessary tasks, rather than one program doing it all. Because of
> > > this, knowing a little about "bash scripting" can make it far simpler;
> > > a "bash script" can start all of the necessary programs in the right
> > > order, so you don't have to always start them manually :)
> > >
> > >
> > > > 6) Audio drivers? I currently own the t.c. electronic konnekt8 audio
> > > > interface and going from whats on the website they
> > > > dont have linux drivers? Could i use AISO4ALL? I used those drivers
> on
> > > > windows with no problems before, anyone have
> > > > any problems with them on linux?
> > >
> > > I have never heard of ASIO4ALL on Linux; AFAIK ASIO in general only
> > > runs on Windows, and is probably unnecessary. Jack does low-latency
> > > (IMO better) on Linux. One thing I did like about ASIO4ALL was that
> > > it allowed realtime audio input to Reason- but, as we all know, Reason
> > > doesn't run on Linux, so no loss!
> > >
> > >
> > > > I guess this is all for now. There are many more questions which i
> have, but
> > > > i will do the research for those. If someone can also
> > > > point em to some good resources on the web on linux audio i would def
> > > > appreciate it.
> > >
> > > I got a lot from Florian Schmidt's page, I'm sure it's not hard to
> > > find. He provides some details that it always seemed like everyone
> > > else knew but me.
> > > One last word of advice: if you find Linux interests you, you're bound
> > > to encounter some outwardly rude people. Obviously getting nasty with
> > > them doesn't help, and it satisfies them in some kind of way; but
> > > sometimes a severely sarcastic remark, perhaps a self-deprecating one,
> > > really seems to win them over. It hasn't been my experience here, but
> > > if you ever go on the #debian IRC channel, you might want to set up
> > > some counseling beforehand, just in case.
> > > Good luck, hope to see you on the list in the future.
> > >
> > > -Chuckk
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > Arda EDEN
> > Cumhuriyet University
> > Faculty of Fine Arts
> > Department of Music Technology
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