[LAU] Fwd: [PlanetCCRMA] VST

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Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008 - 4:47 am

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I forwarded my post from the ccrma list. I am looking for help getting
windows vst support on a 64 bit system. The typical solutions (fst,
dssi-vst) don't compile, nor does wineasio.

Any help would be appreciated!

Joe

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> From: "Joseph Dell'Orfano"

> Thank you so much for your reply. I have explored all of these

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I forwarded my post from the ccrma =
list. I am looking for help getting windows vst support on a 64 bit =
system. The typical solutions (fst, dssi-vst) don't compile, nor does =
wineasio. Any help would be =
appreciated!JoeBegin forwarded message:From: "Joseph Dell'Orfano" <fullgo@dellorfano.net>Dat=
e: November 5, 2008 11:25:02 PM ESTTo: "Preston C." =
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[PlanetCCRMA] VST

Thank you so much for your reply. I have explored all of these options
and actually just got my Amplitube plugin working on my old 32-bit
machine. This is using CCRMA with FC6.  This works for me because I
have this connected via S/PDIF to my main DAW (a 64-bit machine running
CCRMA and FC8), so essentially my old 32-bit machine is functioning as
a digital effects processor.

Here is the summary of my experience with VST so far. I have cross
posted this on LAU as well.

1. I cannot run a (windows) VST on my 64-bit machine. I cannot compile
dssi-vst, fst, or wine-asio. It appears that they do not want to
compile against my 64-bit jack libraries. Perhaps I am missing
something obvious (probably) but I just can't compile these.

2. Reaper does not work in Wine on my 64-bit machine. I installed wine
from the CCRMA repo (it is 32-bit I believe).

3. Energy-XT runs but I cannot compile the libamm with jack support.
Again, 64-bit problems. I have not tried to run the windows version of
energy-XT but I suspect I will have wine problems as I did with =
reaper.

4. dssi-vst appears to be broken on the 32-bit machine. Again, I
downloaded this from CCRMA repo. vsthost scans all of my plugins
properly and starts them up but quickly fails with a report that it
"lost communication" with the plugin.

5. fst compiles on my 32-bit machine very easily and runs my windows
plugins properly (Yay!)

I hope this is helpful. Any comments about getting VST support up and
running on my 64-bit machine would be greatly appreciated.

-Joe

Preston C. wrote:

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Joseph Dell'Orfano
<fullgo@dellorfano.net> =
wrote:

Hi everybody,

I am trying to find a solution to vst support on a ccrma fedora 8
system. Oh, did I mention I'm running 64-bit? That seems to be a major
wall preventing dssi-vst and others from compiling. I can compile wine-
asio-x and jackbridge seems work fine. I cannot get Reaper to run, nor
can I get extreme-xt to run with jack support (cannot compile libamm).
I am using the stock wine packages from ccrma which do not appear to
be 64-bit so this may prevent programs such as reaper from working.

So, any suggestions would be appreciated. There do not seem to be a
lot of success stories out there.

Thanks!

Joe Dell'Orfano

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I asked the same question on this list, and got =
a great reply from a
guy named Ray Rashif. Here it is:

OK, the deal about VST "support" on GNU/Linux is that you can read all
about it scattered all around the WWW. It'd take some time to really
get things right if you don't come across the correct sources sooner
than expected. The SDK is freely available, but not free is in our
understanding; the license forbids redistribution. So, say you were to
use the SDK to program a host, you're not allowed to let the binary be
up for download. Each individual must agree to the licensing terms and
then download the SDK to compile the software himself. This is what
limits the so-called support for VSTs on Linux, or any free platform.

In view of the situation, there are currently a few ways to use
VST(i)s on our favourite distros:

(1) Proprietary DAW software with Linux offerings. Examples are
Renoise, energyXT..and I think that's about it.

(2) Wine-friendly Windows software. Examples are..example is Reaper.

(3) SDK-compiled Linux software that support it. Examples are Ardour,
Rosegarden, and I can't really remember the rest. Here you need to
download the SDK and configure the build to compile against the SDK.

(4) Linux software with unique support for VSTs built in, with the
help of Wine. Note: No SDK required. This is my personal favourite
route to take. Examples are LMMS and Qtractor (via dssi-vst).
---- Extra note: Qtractor is different because it relies on a separate
wrapper, which in turn has that unique Wine-based support built in:
dssi-vst
---- Previously dssi-vst required the SDK, but not anymore. Yay.

(5) Native VST host. Native here means Linux-only. These VSTs are
those that are compiled for the Linux system. There is only 1 such
host to my knowledge - Jost. The collection of plug-ins (ported or
otherwise) isn't all that great, but it feels really good being able
to run VST instruments natively without any overhead or performance
loss. The author's few plug-ins are of high quality; a talented
programmer AND musician he is.

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