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Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:

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> On 8/14/07, Florin Andrei  wrote:

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>> If I set the list to remove duplicates, I only receive the private

>> reply, which depends on the email client of the sender, which may or may

>> not do the right thing. Therefore, filtering is less reliable, because

>> it depends on all those email clients out there to do something.

>

> The private reply will contain a cc: field which will _always_ contain

> linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org.

Well... maybe, if the mail client does the right thing. If the user hits

the right button.

There's just no way around that - if Reply-To is not set, you rely on

the client, which may be well-behaved, or not. :-/ Not to mention the user.
I love de-centralization and whatnot, but sometimes you just have to

impose certain things.
> You might not have seen last weeks thread announcing the change. I

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> gave a link to this page

> http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful which contains

What can I say, I disagree with almost everything in it. :-)
"Anyone who gets any spam at all knows how to delete email" - great, now

I have to deal with more spam, from the mailing lists. :-(
> a part named "Getting two copies of the same email". You will find

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> here a second method to remove duplicates based on the Message-ID

> header.

But it's not a "method" - it just says "I hope your email client behaves

in a certain way, otherwise tough luck".
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Reply-To munging per se. If all

mailing lists servers and all mail clients were well-behaved, then it

wouldn't matter - some kind of list identifier would be set by the

server, and all clients would dutifully add it to replies going to the

mailing list. So then the reply could be sent directly, not through the

server and everything would still work.
The reality is, this is a world far from perfect. Reply-To munging is

the only way to keep things consistent across the board, no matter

what's the client or the server. If things get better (more

standardized) with email software then fine, stop tweaking the stupid

header.
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Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/