Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?

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To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 1:22 pm

carmen wrote:

just forget about OS or DE or distro names for a while - John still
wonders if we can :-)

> who dont want to learn anything

that exactly hits the spot! -

Imagine s.o who is only makes a living by open-source development
without wanting to supporting it's Ideology! (some out there sells/buys
hippie-wigs in wal-mart.) OTOH everyone not wishing to learn sth. new;
is still free to waive his/her GPL user-rights and join the open-source
outlaws or the plugin-mafia :-)

> and just click an icon? thats the point of Ubuntu, innit?

>> " - ok I kid. Who would agree that someone who wants to record

along these lines:

There's nothing wrong with old tape recorders that have few big
mechanical buttons (my favorites). They always work, one can even open
them - advanced users can even tweak the flange or motor-speed...
In that saying: Ubuntu brings the mechanical audio age to the digital
open-source desktop. obviously Pro-Audio has more knobs than the guys
on the Ubuntu-CD Cover are going to handle in near future (sorry -
couldn't resist - lol. )

:back with a new coffee:

ok it's not just fun making up desktop utopia allutions; what I gather
from this discussion is that end-user support is (again?) becoming
increasingly important, especially for open-source!
One of the worst case scenarios is that rapid development and increasing
disk-space will undo the shared open library concept, as the latter
usually has long turnaround times and also misses proper dependency
tracking/logistics..

The GPL in general releases tension of the programmer. - and it's not
unheared of it transforming angry-users into productive coders - so the
actual bottom line question is: What can linux-audio do to support
gnu/Linux?

Ico seems to be right there, that it boils down to the user-interface
and community look&feel.

There's already lots of great backend software, and also good work in
packaging those for various distos. - maybe the LA-Consortium should
think about a task-force to recommend or delegate missing integration
features: both for library development (LASH rocks!) and/or
desktop-integration: eg. mapping some limits.conf magic to a
desktop-prefs check-button is easy; the trick is to compose an
informative mouse-over hint! but it's more subtle than that, now is it?
"make the world as simple as possible, but not any simpler!" (A.E.=mc2 )

It might be a topic that Linux-Audio Developers (busy as they are
already) should pay more attention to. - what do you guys think?
s/pay/be paid to pay/ ?! lol

As for a community [web] interface there is ongoing work and more
discussion to come on this list pre+post LAC2007.

> imo the biggest problem affecting linux audio on the desktop is video

i don't follow you there. personally I'm always astonished how well
various live CDs detect video cards!

but if you mean that tweaking high performance video hardware on linux
compares to obscure voodoo magic, I quite agree ;-) - or were you
hinting upcoming DRM (not Direct-Rendering but Digital-Rights) hardware
issues?

what can *we* do about it ?

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[linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Mon Feb 19, 3:43 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: pithy comments, Ken Restivo, (Tue Feb 20, 5:21 am)
RE: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Mon Feb 19, 5:54 pm)
RE: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Tue Feb 20, 1:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Nedko Arnaudov, (Fri Feb 23, 10:46 am)
RE: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Wed Feb 21, 2:38 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Russell Hanaghan, (Wed Feb 21, 5:11 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Robin Gareus, (Thu Feb 22, 1:22 pm)
RE: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Thu Feb 22, 4:46 am)
[linux-audio-user] audiogui, Leonard Ritter, (Mon Feb 26, 12:41 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] audiogui, Louis Acresti, (Tue Feb 27, 10:32 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] audiogui, Ken Restivo, (Tue Feb 27, 7:55 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Problem with virmidi module, Clemens Ladisch, (Fri Feb 23, 10:21 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Problem with virmidi module, Yves Potin, (Thu Feb 22, 9:24 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Problem with virmidi module, Dave Phillips, (Thu Feb 22, 12:36 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Problem with virmidi module, Yves Potin, (Thu Feb 22, 12:07 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Problem with virmidi module, James Stone, (Thu Feb 22, 12:01 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Leonard Ritter, (Tue Feb 20, 10:30 pm)
RE: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Mon Feb 19, 5:11 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Chris McCormick, (Tue Feb 20, 3:46 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Chris McCormick, (Wed Feb 21, 6:39 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Chris McCormick, (Thu Feb 22, 1:55 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] OT: FUD or not? what is your opinion?, Marc-Olivier Barre, (Mon Feb 19, 4:09 pm)