Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?

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From: Rob <lau@...>
To: <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 4:08 pm

On Wed June 21 2006 07:51, Thomas Ilnseher wrote:

I have certainly paid more for hardware that I knew would work
without having to install proprietary software on my computer,
let alone into the kernel. Choosing Gravis over Creative Labs
back in the day, ATI (pre-Radeon) over Diamond and then Nvidia,
and just about any other wifi card over one that uses a Broadcom
chipset are all examples of this behavior.

> but i have to confess that 3D gfx drivers (with decent

Nvidia and ATI aren't keeping their graphics drivers proprietary
because they're "such a complex thing", they're keeping them
proprietary because they're in an arms race and don't want to
hand their competition a roadmap to their advanced features.

At any rate, yours is a straw man argument because the free
software community isn't asking to be handed a working free
software driver, we just want enough information on the card to
write our own driver like we do for all the other video cards on
the market who aren't competing with Nvidia and ATI on the high
end.

Rob

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[linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, R Parker, (Tue Jun 20, 7:52 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, tim hall, (Sat Jun 24, 10:18 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Esben Stien, (Wed Jun 21, 12:29 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, tim hall, (Sat Jun 24, 11:53 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Sat Jun 24, 5:37 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Frank Barknecht, (Wed Jun 21, 12:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Link Swanson, (Tue Jun 20, 8:12 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, R Parker, (Tue Jun 20, 8:27 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Tue Jun 20, 8:02 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, tim hall, (Sat Jun 24, 11:03 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Dave Robillard, (Tue Jun 20, 8:26 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Esben Stien, (Wed Jun 21, 12:31 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Stephen Hassard, (Tue Jun 20, 9:11 pm)
[linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Loki Davison, (Tue Jun 20, 11:07 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, carmen, (Tue Jun 20, 11:55 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Mark Knecht, (Wed Jun 21, 12:23 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Jonny Stutters, (Wed Jun 21, 7:45 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Frank Barknecht, (Wed Jun 21, 7:59 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Dave Robillard, (Wed Jun 21, 6:27 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 6:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Frank Barknecht, (Wed Jun 21, 10:21 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, R Parker, (Wed Jun 21, 11:26 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 10:45 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Gian Paolo Mureddu, (Wed Jun 21, 1:47 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Frank Barknecht, (Wed Jun 21, 2:36 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Gian Paolo Mureddu, (Wed Jun 21, 7:28 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Dave Robillard, (Thu Jun 22, 1:08 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 7:52 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Gian Paolo Mureddu, (Thu Jun 22, 5:11 am)
[linux-audio-user] LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jun 22, 5:55 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Thu Jun 22, 12:17 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jun 22, 1:12 pm)
[linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Loki Davison, (Thu Jun 22, 11:49 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Jun 23, 11:20 am)
RE: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Sat Jun 24, 12:28 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Sat Jun 24, 8:33 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Jun 25, 10:01 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Sun Jun 25, 3:30 pm)
RE: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Sun Jun 25, 11:45 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Jun 25, 4:19 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Mon Jun 26, 2:28 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Jun 26, 4:04 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Wed Jun 28, 1:06 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Wed Jun 28, 4:55 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Thu Jun 29, 9:09 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jun 29, 9:29 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Thu Jun 29, 9:49 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jun 29, 12:28 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Mon Jul 10, 1:32 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Jul 10, 3:36 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Mon Jul 10, 5:48 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, tim hall, (Tue Jul 11, 8:16 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Mon Jul 10, 7:15 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Thu Jul 13, 8:03 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Jul 14, 5:42 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Fri Jul 14, 7:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, John Anderson, (Sat Jul 15, 6:37 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Steve D, (Sat Jul 15, 5:34 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jul 15, 3:23 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Sat Jul 15, 8:12 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Atte André Jensen, (Sat Jul 15, 8:21 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Sat Jul 15, 8:35 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jul 15, 9:38 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Sat Jul 15, 10:18 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Atte André Jensen, (Sat Jul 15, 10:13 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Sat Jul 15, 10:21 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Atte André Jensen, (Sat Jul 15, 11:26 am)
RE: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Ivica Ico Bukvic, (Sat Jul 15, 4:59 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Atte André Jensen, (Sat Jul 15, 8:57 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Fri Jul 14, 8:12 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto..., (Thu Jul 13, 9:05 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Fri Jul 14, 8:04 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Dan Easley, (Thu Jul 13, 9:10 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Mon Jul 10, 7:54 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Conor O'Tuama, (Mon Jul 10, 2:05 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Dave Phillips, (Mon Jul 10, 1:39 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Mon Jul 10, 4:57 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Dave Phillips, (Wed Jun 28, 1:33 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, luis jure, (Sun Jun 25, 12:46 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Patrick Shirkey, (Sun Jun 25, 2:28 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Thorsten Wilms, (Sun Jun 25, 2:22 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Lars Luthman, (Sun Jun 25, 10:14 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: LAU FAQ WIKI, Dave Phillips, (Sat Jun 24, 8:57 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Thomas Ilnseher, (Thu Jun 22, 12:48 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Thu Jun 22, 1:18 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Thomas Ilnseher, (Wed Jun 21, 11:51 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Dave Robillard, (Wed Jun 21, 6:31 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 6:37 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Dave Robillard, (Wed Jun 21, 6:42 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 7:18 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Rob, (Wed Jun 21, 4:08 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Esben Stien, (Wed Jun 21, 12:48 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Thomas Ilnseher, (Wed Jun 21, 3:42 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 4:03 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Dave Phillips, (Wed Jun 21, 5:15 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 6:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jun 22, 4:26 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Stephen Hassard, (Thu Jun 22, 4:29 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Thu Jun 22, 4:32 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jun 22, 4:46 am)
[linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Loki Davison, (Thu Jun 22, 5:02 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Dave Phillips, (Thu Jun 22, 10:24 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Patrick Shirkey, (Thu Jun 22, 11:13 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Thomas Vecchione, (Wed Jun 21, 8:02 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 7:56 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Dave Phillips, (Wed Jun 21, 7:55 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Frank Barknecht, (Wed Jun 21, 12:34 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, glauber alex dias prado, (Wed Jun 21, 12:27 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, R Parker, (Wed Jun 21, 4:11 am)
[linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Arnold Krille, (Wed Jun 21, 12:36 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, tim hall, (Sat Jun 24, 11:28 am)
[linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Arnold Krille, (Sat Jun 24, 6:11 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, tim hall, (Sun Jun 25, 6:20 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Thomas Vecchione, (Sat Jun 24, 8:03 pm)
[linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Arnold Krille, (Sat Jun 24, 8:12 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Thomas Vecchione, (Sat Jun 24, 9:13 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, R Parker, (Wed Jun 21, 4:37 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, Lee Revell, (Wed Jun 21, 12:07 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: which graphics card?, R Parker, (Tue Jun 20, 11:27 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, R Parker, (Tue Jun 20, 8:23 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] which graphics card?, Dave Robillard, (Wed Jun 21, 6:36 pm)