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Hi Shayne,

Line outs from amps usually give a very thin crappy signal. You'll do

much better miking the amp.
Andres
Shayne O'Connor wrote:

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>>Last Sunday 13 February 2005 22:12, Shayne O'Connor was like:

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>>>tim hall wrote:

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>>>>Last Sunday 13 February 2005 10:24, Shayne O'Connor was like:

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>>>>>(i should say that, to me, this song has more than a bit of a tribute to

>>>>>the musical forms of Pavement ... and correct tuning in this context has

>>>>>no more relevance than good singing ... )

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>>>>OK, there's no such things as 'correct' granted. However, in my musical

>>>>opinion, this song would sound better 'in tune'.

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>>>i've been listening back to the song, and there is definitely something

>>>ajar with the tuning ... tuning has never been my strong point - after

>>>twelve years of playing guitar, i've only just started tuning the guitar

>>>to the proper pitch. sure, whenever i'd play with keyboards or

>>>something, i'd tune it to that ... otherwise, i'd just tune it to the

>>>low e-string. ha ha, that'll make some of you cringe :)   it's really

>>>gotta stop ... i think i'm just so used to out-of-tuneness from this

>>>sloppy behaviour, as well as most of the music i listen to comes from a

>>>bit of a DIY philosophy ... no excuse for laziness, though.

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>>Well, we've had some interesting discussions on here lately about tuning

>>guitars, check the archives. I've certainly learned how to improve my tuning,

>>I've been one of the worst offenders for being slightly out of tune all the

>>time.

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> i think i noticed them, but instinctively filed them under "boring" ...

> such is the way my mind works.

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>>I'm beginning to understand that the western 12 tone system is innately

>>out of tune with the natural harmonics, so if you tune to harmonics, you'll

>>always be out of tune. The best advice was to tune every other string to the

>>A string or a harmonic of the A string. That works a treat!

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> i tune to harmonics, so i better look into this!

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>>>>Dodgy guitar sounds require

>>>>much greater production skills to sound right (c.f. World Domination

>>>>Enterprises 'Asbestos Lead Asbestos' or indeed their version of 'Funky

>>>>Town').

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>>>funny you should mention, because i've been listening to rough trade

>>>shops no wave compilation, and "asbestos lead asbestos" is on there ...

>>>also on there, and highly deserving of cross-referencing, is "the

>>>raincoats" version of "lola" ... it's just so sleazy and scummy in every

>>>way ... and the tuning, oh my god it's awful ... the most brilliant

>>>cover i've heard in a while :)

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>>Heh ;-)

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>>>>Recording the guitar through a miked up valve amp would help. 7th

>>>>chords on the guitar tend to produce uncomfortable and distracting

>>>>harmonics if they're not tuned right, you'll notice many guitarists use

>>>>open power chords for this reason.

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>>>i'll try this out - but i think my amp (marshall valvestate) only offers

>>>a solid-state emulation of a valve ... i haven't had much experienc

>>>miking stuff up, so it should be a good learning experience too :)

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>>I thought the valvestate was a valve pre-amp with a tranny power-amp.

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> you're probly right - it does sound really nice, and it takes a little

> while to warm up which would be a dumb thing to emulate ...

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>>It's

>>rather good for recording with IIRC because you can get decent distortion

>>without having to crank it right up.

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> it was given to me by my mum's boyfriend, and it has a line-out plug ...

> which i though would be perfect for getting that nice distortion into my

> computer ... but i haven't been able to get a squeak out of that

> line-out from my amp :(

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> shayne

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