Re: Behringer [was Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more]

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Date: Monday, November 29, 2004 - 11:49 am

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:58:24 +0100
Tim Orford wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:31:25PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

This is the Darl McBride/SCO argument against the GPL. It makes about
as much sense as the "Wookie defense" on South Park - "If Chewbacca
lives on Endor, you must acquit!"

> Copyright is a

This was how it was conceived of. The idea is being perverted through
software patents here in the US to try and lock OSS out of the game,
legitimizing large, proprietary software companies. Weasels. If they
could, they'd patent the "for" loop and sue everyone writing a program
with such a control structure, and our patent office would blindly hand
them the patent.

Hardware, on the other hand, has already had precedents set, and the
rules allowing reverse engineering are pretty well defined, which is
what allows Behringer to sell an exact copy of someone else's audio
cable tester.

I think if RME believes releasing the data on their Firewire audio
poses a threat to their competitive edge, they probably have a point.

While I'm a huge fan of OSS, I have to respect when companies like
NVidia release binary-only drivers for a device. I'm just glad that
they do, when so many companies will only release for Windoze, or for
Windoze and Mac only. I think NVidia's support, for example, is as good
for Linux as it is for any other platform. Do all bugs get fixed?
Nope, and they don't in 99% of OSS projects, either.

If RME chooses not to do Linux support for their Firewire devices, then
about all we can do is write them and tell them we won't be buying those
devices.

On the other hand, I think it's important to let companies know when we
do purchase their goods because of Linux support, so that they will continue
to do so, open source or not.

Just my $0.02.

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Re: Behringer [was Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-d..., Michal Kostrzewa, (Tue Nov 30, 12:43 pm)
Re: Behringer [was Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-d..., Hasse Hagen Johansen, (Mon Nov 29, 11:04 am)
Re: Behringer [was Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-d..., Michal Kostrzewa, (Mon Nov 29, 10:52 am)
Re: Behringer [was Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-d..., Christoph Eckert, (Sun Nov 28, 11:46 pm)
[linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Ryan Gallagher, (Sun Nov 28, 4:55 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Mark Knecht, (Sun Nov 28, 6:14 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Ryan Gallagher, (Sun Nov 28, 7:56 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Mark Knecht, (Sun Nov 28, 8:23 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Lee Revell, (Sun Nov 28, 8:33 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Lee Revell, (Sun Nov 28, 8:06 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Ryan Gallagher, (Sun Nov 28, 8:24 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Lee Revell, (Sun Nov 28, 8:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Lee Revell, (Sun Nov 28, 8:43 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Ryan Gallagher, (Sun Nov 28, 8:32 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Lee Revell, (Sun Nov 28, 8:39 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Dave Robillard, (Sun Nov 28, 9:21 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Ryan Gallagher, (Sun Nov 28, 10:12 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] open source firewire, Mark Knecht, (Sun Nov 28, 10:26 pm)
[linux-audio-user] Re: Behringer etc., jonathan segel, (Mon Nov 29, 12:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Preach it! [was: Re: [linux-audio-use..., Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Tue Nov 30, 6:49 am)
[linux-audio-user] Re: pro-audio knowledge, Jack O'Quin, (Wed Dec 1, 5:23 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: pro-audio knowledge, tim hall, (Wed Dec 1, 3:06 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: pro-audio knowledge, Jan Depner, (Wed Dec 1, 9:59 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: pro-audio knowledge, tim hall, (Thu Dec 2, 11:49 am)
[linux-audio-user] cross-platform [was: Behringer etc.], Florin Andrei, (Mon Nov 29, 8:35 pm)
Re: Behringer [was Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-d..., Joe Hartley, (Mon Nov 29, 11:49 am)
[linux-audio-user] [ANN] Linux Audio DVD in Keyboards, Matthias Nagorni, (Mon Nov 29, 4:01 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] [ANN] Linux Audio DVD in Keyboards, Christoph Eckert, (Mon Nov 29, 6:52 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] [ANN] Linux Audio DVD in Keyboards, Matthias Nagorni, (Wed Dec 1, 4:49 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] [ANN] Linux Audio DVD in Keyboards, Christoph Eckert, (Wed Dec 1, 5:33 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] [ANN] Linux Audio DVD in Keyboards, Matthias Nagorni, (Wed Dec 1, 6:10 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] [ANN] Linux Audio DVD in Keyboards, Robert Jonsson, (Mon Nov 29, 4:36 pm)
[linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Jack O'Quin, (Mon Nov 29, 3:58 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Mon Nov 29, 6:17 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Rick B, (Mon Nov 29, 8:27 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Mark Knecht, (Mon Nov 29, 8:41 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Mon Nov 29, 8:57 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Rob, (Mon Nov 29, 9:27 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Mon Nov 29, 9:56 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, tim hall, (Tue Nov 30, 5:20 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] (OT) meat/not meat, Michael T Nelson, (Tue Nov 30, 3:36 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] (OT) meat/not meat, tim hall, (Wed Dec 1, 1:35 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] (OT) meat/not meat, Michael T Nelson, (Wed Dec 1, 2:31 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] (OT) meat/not meat, tim hall, (Thu Dec 2, 11:40 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Russell Hanaghan, (Tue Nov 30, 6:14 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Tue Nov 30, 10:22 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Mark Knecht, (Tue Nov 30, 3:59 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Tue Nov 30, 5:44 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Mark Knecht, (Tue Nov 30, 6:19 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, tim hall, (Wed Dec 1, 1:42 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Jan Depner, (Tue Nov 30, 4:10 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Mark Knecht, (Tue Nov 30, 4:15 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Jan Depner, (Tue Nov 30, 4:21 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Tue Nov 30, 11:31 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Rob, (Tue Nov 30, 3:56 pm)
[linux-audio-user] [OT] The 99th Monkey Nut, tim hall, (Wed Dec 1, 2:34 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] [OT] The 99th Monkey Nut, Lee Revell, (Wed Dec 1, 4:20 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] [OT] The 99th Monkey Nut, Jack O'Quin, (Wed Dec 1, 5:40 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Florin Andrei, (Tue Nov 30, 5:57 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, R Parker, (Tue Nov 30, 6:51 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Tue Nov 30, 10:58 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Tue Nov 30, 7:56 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Tue Nov 30, 10:23 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Mark Knecht, (Tue Nov 30, 4:01 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Dave Phillips, (Tue Nov 30, 12:48 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, tim hall, (Tue Nov 30, 1:09 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Tue Nov 30, 5:44 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Wed Dec 1, 3:13 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Wed Dec 1, 11:30 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Wed Dec 1, 3:10 am)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Marek Peteraj, (Wed Dec 1, 11:31 pm)
Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME is no more, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano, (Thu Dec 2, 1:14 am)
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Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Behringer, Wolfgang Woehl, (Wed Dec 1, 12:11 pm)