Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think...

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To: Filipe Coelho <falktx@...>
Cc: Linux Audio Developers <linux-audio-dev@...>
Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 6:00 pm

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I kinda knew this would turn into an ideological debate.

As a user and not a developer, I would like to point out that the problem
with compilation is not that it is not "rocket science", but that it is a
tedious process that not all users want to go through even if they know how
to do it.

Back in my days of being new to GNU/Linux I compiled a lot of software and
even when being keenly interested in doing that I remember being very
frustrated as I can rarely recall an occasion when it just worked.

That means that if you do not have all the tools and dependencies, you know
as a fact that installing this application will take unpredictable amount
of time. Once it'll take you 2 minutes, another it can take up to a day,
which had happened to me.
Which is why I personally rely more on ppa's nowadays as I am a little bit
tired of compiling things. There are some programs that I never could
compile at all, for one reason or another.

So, this has very little to do with learning or intelligence. This has to
do with priorities. If a person's priority is to develop and not use, then
sure. If a person's main goal is to use GNU/Linux software, then his
priority would be to get it running, not dive each time into the
intricacies of how things work on code level.

Not to mention, fellas, that there is not much learning value in compiling
anyway. I mean, sometimes you just don't have all the dependencies and
after you go through the trouble of getting almost all of it, some library
requires you to have a different kernel version and there's that.

And in conclusion, I'd like to note that Filipe's suggestion is just that.
If you do not agree - you won't use his methods and will continue to
release sources. Those who agree will try out his way. So I see no problem
here.

L.V.
*http://www.louigiverona.ru/ *

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I kinda knew this =
would turn into an ideological debate.As a user and not a dev=
eloper, I would like to point out that the problem with compilation is not =
that it is not "rocket science", but that it is a tedious process=
that not all users want to go through even if they know how to do it.
Back in my days of being new to GNU/Linux I compiled a lot of sof=
tware and even when being keenly interested in doing that I remember being =
very frustrated as I can rarely recall an occasion when it just worked.
That means that if you do not have all the tools and dependencies=
, you know as a fact that installing this application will take unpredictab=
le amount of time. Once it'll take you 2 minutes, another it can take u=
p to a day, which had happened to me.
Which is why I personally rely more on ppa's nowadays as I am a little =
bit tired of compiling things. There are some programs that I never could c=
ompile at all, for one reason or another.So, this has very li=
ttle to do with learning or intelligence. This has to do with priorities. I=
f a person's priority is to develop and not use, then sure. If a person=
's main goal is to use GNU/Linux software, then his priority would be t=
o get it running, not dive each time into the intricacies of how things wor=
k on code level.
Not to mention, fellas, that there is not much learning value in =
compiling anyway. I mean, sometimes you just don't have all the depende=
ncies and after you go through the trouble of getting almost all of it, som=
e library requires you to have a different kernel version and there's t=
hat.
And in conclusion, I'd like to note that Filipe's suggest=
ion is just that. If you do not agree - you won't use his methods and w=
ill continue to release sources. Those who agree will try out his way. So I=
see no problem here.
L.V.http://w=
ww.louigiverona.ru/

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[LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Brendan Jones, (Fri Jan 24, 1:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Robillard, (Wed Jan 22, 2:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Jan 22, 4:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:11 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Tue Jan 21, 6:49 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Fri Jan 24, 5:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., hermann meyer, (Sat Jan 25, 6:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Sun Jan 26, 7:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Thu Jan 23, 12:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:26 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:31 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Tue Jan 21, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dennis Schulmeister, (Tue Jan 21, 9:13 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Florian Paul Schmidt, (Tue Jan 21, 3:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Thu Jan 23, 12:19 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Clemens Koller, (Tue Jan 21, 11:31 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Tue Jan 21, 10:29 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Sun Mar 16, 12:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:57 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Santamauro, (Tue Jan 21, 11:48 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:37 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Thijs van severen, (Tue Jan 21, 6:46 am)