Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think...

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On 01/21/2014 05:00 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

What about all the freeware software I see in Windows/OSX?
It's the only way they (software devs) have to get some attention to it.
afaik no one is paying them.

I don't think a sane person is willing to wait ~6 months and do a
reinstall just for a bug-fix release (in case of Ubuntu).

>

I don't see how this is worse than having the users installing files to
/usr/local.
I actually think it's much better, since it won't require root to
install. Just run the binary.

~/bin also exists, although not all distros use it.

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On 01/21/2014 05:00 PM, Fons Adriaensen
wrote:

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 03:34:05PM +0000, Filipe Coelho wrote:

I seriously don't wish any new user to have to put up with this.
It might be easy for us that are now used to this sort of things,
but not for them.

Then they should wait until their distro or someone else provides
a package. Or pay someone to do the work for them, just as they
have to for commercial software, or for the mechanic you mention.
Or use a distro that usually provides a shorter release cycle,
e.g. Arch (which is not for noobs).

What about all the freeware software I see in Windows/OSX?
It's the only way they (software devs) have to get some attention to
it. afaik no one is paying them.

I don't think a sane person is willing to wait ~6 months and do a
reinstall just for a bug-fix release (in case of Ubuntu).

Unless that toolchain can magically create packages for all major
distros (and I'm pretty sure it can't do that), what's the point ?

It won't create packages, it will create binaries - which is what
users are looking for.

And how are these installed ? Bypassing the distro package management
is a sure recipe for misery. Maybe not immediately, with a bit of
luck the binary you just copied to /usr/bin may work. But sooner or
later your users will get some serious trouble, because you're messing
up their systems. If that's what you want, go on...

I don't see how this is worse than having the users installing files
to /usr/local.
I actually think it's much better, since it won't require root to
install. Just run the binary.

~/bin also exists, although not all distros use it.

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[LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Brendan Jones, (Fri Jan 24, 1:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Robillard, (Wed Jan 22, 2:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Jan 22, 4:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:11 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Tue Jan 21, 6:49 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Fri Jan 24, 5:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., hermann meyer, (Sat Jan 25, 6:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Sun Jan 26, 7:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Thu Jan 23, 12:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:26 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:31 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Tue Jan 21, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dennis Schulmeister, (Tue Jan 21, 9:13 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Florian Paul Schmidt, (Tue Jan 21, 3:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Thu Jan 23, 12:19 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Clemens Koller, (Tue Jan 21, 11:31 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Tue Jan 21, 10:29 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Sun Mar 16, 12:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:57 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Santamauro, (Tue Jan 21, 11:48 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:37 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Thijs van severen, (Tue Jan 21, 6:46 am)