Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think...

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On 01/21/2014 04:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Well, first, it's up to the developers to provide that and not the user.
Second, I don't think *any* new user will understand what a Makefile does...

Regarding checkinstall, that's not a widely known trick.
I still meet new users on IRC and forums that never heard of it.

>

How do you backup an installed application?

In my case I had an older version of an app I wanted to upgrade.
The distribution didn't had the new version so I had to build one myself.
Because I was a noob something probably went wrong during the build,
resulting in a broken app.
The app installed to /usr/local which overrides distro's /usr packages.
But I didn't knew that (noob alert ;)) so what could I have done?
Reinstalling the app's package did nothing (still /usr/local files present).

For a new Linux user, I understand this is when they start thinking
about going back...

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On 01/21/2014 04:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:

On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 15:55 +0000, Filipe Coelho wrote:

I'd be tempted to remove what I just installed, but not all software
comes with a "make uninstall".

But that should be provided, if it shouldn't be provided, then taking a
look to the makefile might give some hints what was installed to what
location. Btw. it can't harm to at least try checkinstall instead of
make install, this is possible most of the times.

Well, first, it's up to the developers to provide that and not the
user.
Second, I don't think *any* new user will understand what a Makefile
does...

Regarding checkinstall, that's not a widely known trick.
I still meet new users on IRC and forums that never heard of it.

So crap... I had broken app X and I didn't knew how to fix it or to
revert to the previous condition...

Restoring from a backup? Even non-techie (non-power-users) should
consider to backup their complete Linux DAWs and data.

How do you backup an installed application?

In my case I had an older version of an app I wanted to upgrade.
The distribution didn't had the new version so I had to build one
myself.
Because I was a noob something probably went wrong during the build,
resulting in a broken app.
The app installed to /usr/local which overrides distro's /usr
packages.
But I didn't knew that (noob alert ;)) so what could I have done?
Reinstalling the app's package did nothing (still /usr/local files
present).

For a new Linux user, I understand this is when they start thinking
about going back...

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[LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Brendan Jones, (Fri Jan 24, 1:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Robillard, (Wed Jan 22, 2:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Jan 22, 4:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:11 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Tue Jan 21, 6:49 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Fri Jan 24, 5:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., hermann meyer, (Sat Jan 25, 6:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Sun Jan 26, 7:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Thu Jan 23, 12:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:26 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:31 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Tue Jan 21, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dennis Schulmeister, (Tue Jan 21, 9:13 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Florian Paul Schmidt, (Tue Jan 21, 3:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Thu Jan 23, 12:19 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Clemens Koller, (Tue Jan 21, 11:31 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Tue Jan 21, 10:29 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Sun Mar 16, 12:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:57 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Santamauro, (Tue Jan 21, 11:48 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:37 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Thijs van severen, (Tue Jan 21, 6:46 am)