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On 01/21/2014 07:50 AM, Nils Gey wrote:

I don't expect package maintainers to get a fresh new software into
their distro right away.
Even when they do it's most likely to the next / unstable / testing
repository. Most of the time users have to wait until the package is
backported, if that ever happens.

That takes away to "freshness" of the software (and the excitement to
try it out).
When users are unable to use your software, they will eventually forget
about it.

> What I would like to see is a change of culture, more tailored to the users who like experimenting and trying new things out:

Heh, even for some github repos some developers know that if they want
any usage on win or osx they have to release a testing binary.
Most Linux (audio) users used to be developers as well, I don't believe
that's the case anymore.

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On 01/21/2014 07:50 AM, Nils Gey wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:55:04 +0000
Filipe Coelho <falktx@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there everyone, specially developers.

I think we should stop assuming releasing source code is enough.
[GNU/] Linux is getting more user friendly, and most users are not able
to compile software,

I agree. But where, from your standpoint, is the package manager?

I don't expect package maintainers to get a fresh new software into
their distro right away.
Even when they do it's most likely to the next / unstable / testing
repository. Most of the time users have to wait until the package is
backported, if that ever happens.

That takes away to "freshness" of the software (and the excitement
to try it out).
When users are unable to use your software, they will eventually
forget about it.

What I would like to see is a change of culture, more tailored to the users who like experimenting and trying new things out:
In Windows I like that it is customary to offer all-in-one binaries, even if you only release a super-early techdemo in a forum.
For me that means: Especially for some super-early tech demos in forums. Instead of an undocumented github page where I have to read the code first to figure out the dependencies.

Heh, even for some github repos some developers know that if they
want any usage on win or osx they have to release a testing binary.
Most Linux (audio) users used to be developers as well, I don't
believe that's the case anymore.

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[LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Brendan Jones, (Fri Jan 24, 1:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Robillard, (Wed Jan 22, 2:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Jan 22, 4:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:34 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:11 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Tue Jan 21, 6:49 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Fri Jan 24, 5:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., hermann meyer, (Sat Jan 25, 6:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., IOhannes m zmölnig, (Sun Jan 26, 7:37 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dominique Michel, (Thu Jan 23, 12:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Jan 21, 5:26 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:31 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 5:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Tue Jan 21, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Dennis Schulmeister, (Tue Jan 21, 9:13 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Florian Paul Schmidt, (Tue Jan 21, 3:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Harry van Haaren, (Thu Jan 23, 12:19 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 4:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Clemens Koller, (Tue Jan 21, 11:31 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Tue Jan 21, 10:29 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Zlobin Nikita, (Sun Mar 16, 12:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:57 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., David Santamauro, (Tue Jan 21, 11:48 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Jan 21, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Filipe Coelho, (Tue Jan 21, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Louigi Verona, (Tue Jan 21, 6:37 am)
Re: [LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think..., Thijs van severen, (Tue Jan 21, 6:46 am)