Re: [LAD] Just an information about the state of affairs - Re: forking (was Re: Aeolus)

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To: <linux-audio-dev@...>, <lmuse-developer@...>, Fons Adriaensen <fons@...>
Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 6:19 am

On September 21, 2013 07:32:56 PM Fons Adriaensen wrote:

I thought you'd made a mistake meaning muse-score instead of
muse-sequencer, but...

http://www.muse-sequencer.org/index.php/Aeolus

Yikes! I had no idea that old 2006 page was there.
I could not figure out how to get to it from our pages.
But typing Aeolus into Google, lo and behold - there's /our/ page
at the very top of the Google results.
I've CC'd just to see what Robert and Joachim think.

(Hey Fons, check out the Aeolus logos that Joachim made at page bottom.)

Anyway, question:
How hard would it be to make Aeolus available as a plugin like DSSI,
LV2 or LinuxVST, or... WinVST?

Would that not solve all issues? Official code would always be up to date.
Maybe get the muse-score team to write the WinVST?
Ah, SDK NDAs, cost and so on is a problem? No muse-score WinVST support?
Hm. What can muse-score do? They need something to make noise in Win.
Still, I'm seeing hefty mods to your program out in the wild, maybe take
a look, pick and choose and merge some of them back?

Plugins are preferred over external apps - no added latency.
Also there's the ugly business of session managers and getting the
whole multi-app setup to reload exactly as before.
When no plugin is available, one resorts to quickly hacking up an
embedded version of some cool app. It tends to grow from there.

MusE has never embedded Aeolus as a MESS plugin, but at one time
ZynSubFX was.

Fons you say Aeolus itself does not restore some settings (stops?).
But can a connected app restore them by sending the whole lot
as midi controller values? Even better, if it's a plugin, the infrastructure
is already there (in MusE) to automatically restore settings, rather than
requiring some extra song data or controller values by the user for
said restoration.

Let us host Aeolus some day. Be our guest!

Tim.
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Re: [LAD] Aeolus, geoff, (Wed Sep 18, 9:56 pm)
[LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), IOhannes m zmoelnig, (Thu Sep 19, 3:35 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Arnold Krille, (Thu Sep 19, 11:13 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Paul Davis, (Thu Sep 19, 11:39 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), IOhannes m zmölnig, (Fri Sep 20, 10:24 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Dan Muresan, (Fri Sep 20, 12:25 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Harry van Haaren, (Fri Sep 20, 12:38 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Harry van Haaren, (Fri Sep 20, 12:39 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), R. Mattes, (Thu Sep 19, 4:01 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Sep 19, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Felix Homann, (Fri Sep 20, 7:52 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Sep 20, 7:57 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Felix Homann, (Fri Sep 20, 8:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Sep 20, 8:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), J. Liles, (Fri Sep 20, 8:50 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Sep 21, 5:52 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), John Rigg, (Sat Sep 21, 9:30 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Sep 21, 9:52 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), John Rigg, (Sat Sep 21, 10:13 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), hermann meyer, (Sat Sep 21, 10:02 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Sep 20, 9:28 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Sep 21, 6:00 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), hermann meyer, (Sat Sep 21, 6:10 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Felix Homann, (Sat Sep 21, 6:43 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), hermann meyer, (Sat Sep 21, 6:59 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Felix Homann, (Sat Sep 21, 7:20 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Sep 21, 6:40 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), hermann meyer, (Sat Sep 21, 6:56 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Felix Homann, (Fri Sep 20, 10:23 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Sep 21, 5:40 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Dan Muresan, (Sat Sep 21, 6:47 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), J. Liles, (Fri Sep 20, 10:00 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Sep 20, 10:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Dan Muresan, (Sat Sep 21, 11:42 am)
Re: [LAD] Just an information about the state of affairs - R..., Tim E. Real, (Sun Sep 22, 6:19 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Felix Homann, (Fri Sep 20, 8:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Gordon JC Pearce, (Fri Sep 20, 9:36 am)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), J. Liles, (Fri Sep 20, 4:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Sep 20, 4:18 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), J. Liles, (Fri Sep 20, 4:30 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Sep 20, 7:35 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Sep 20, 4:42 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), J. Liles, (Thu Sep 19, 9:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fred Gleason, (Thu Sep 19, 9:46 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Nils Gey, (Thu Sep 19, 3:49 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Sep 19, 3:45 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), IOhannes m zmoelnig, (Thu Sep 19, 3:57 pm)
Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus), IOhannes m zmölnig, (Thu Sep 19, 8:56 pm)