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I don't use LMMS to produce dronings. All-in-one sequencers are good for

grid-based music, sure. But grid-based music is not just techno, almost

every type of music except ambient is grid-based.
On Saturday, March 9, 2013, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

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> On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 21:40 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:

>> LMMS can be used to make any type of music, I do not see anything in

>> the software that limits it to either techno or just playing around. I

>> have made several genres with it and people like those tunes and don't

>> find them to be "just playing around". LMMS has got automation of any

>> parameter, great piano roll. It's only serious problem is that it

>> supports only LADSPA plugins and doing music without being able to add

>> more sophisticated things like good reverb and other effects is

>> uninspiring.

>

> To make recordings such as your Dronings would be more work for me when

> using software like LMMS, instead of software such as Qtractor and I

> guess I'm not an exception.

> They enforce a very unusual workflow. IMO there's a reason that

> Rosegarden, Ardour, Qtractor, Cubase, Logic etc. pp. have another

> design.

>

> I'm still limited with IOs, because my RME card is bad supported by

> Linux, but I already can loop in a reverb, so if it should be possible

> to add external gear, I don't care about software reverbs. I only used

> software reverbs, when I had no IOs to loop in a reverb.

>

> It's possible to make "good" music with a spoon, but more pleasant to

> play a grand piano instead of a spoon.

>

>> I tried EnergyXT, I did not like it at all, very raw software, I am

>> surprised anyone dares to ask money for it. However, to be fair, I

>> tried the demo version only.

>

> Until now I didn't test it myself, because I don't like demo versions.

> Usually demo versions can't be used to make real "test" productions. I'm

> not interested to install a hacked version and I only knew one person

> living far away, who used it and perhaps still does use it.

>

> Other proprietary software doesn't need demo versions, because many

> people do use it, it's not hard to get a chance to test such software,

> but energyXT isn't Pro Tools or Steinberg, so I expect a full version

> for test purpose.

>

>> Will Bitwig be released?

>

> Resp. when will it be released and really provide all it's advantages

> and how much will it be?

>

> I guess that Ardour, Rosegarden, Qtrator and Muse are the workstations

> that are interesting for me. When I was younger I made 24/7 music, today

> I don't touch an instrument for month, so I'm not in a hurry. If I

> should change my mind and become a musician again, I might use something

> Microsoft based or no computer. While I prefer Qtractor and Ardour 2, I

> don't exclude Ardour 3, Rosegarden and Muse, they are close to my needs

> too.

>

> Regards,

> Ralf

>

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>-- Louigi Veronahttp://www.louigiverona.ru/

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