Re: [LAD] making sense of Jack MIDI; or, is this an appropriate use for Jack?

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Date: Friday, February 15, 2013 - 5:53 pm

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On Friday 15 February 2013 11:23:02 M Donalies wrote:

Maybe you already have read the propaganda, and came here honestly wondering
about the truth behind it:

http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/faq/start#qwhat_is_the_difference_between_jac...
midi_and_alsa-midi

Jack MIDI comes to extend/replace ALSA MIDI. "Sadly," they currently co-exist.

> If this is true, then how do I use Jack in the following senerio: I'm

I'm hated among Jack MIDI zealots in these lists, because I don't hesitate to
voice my opinion in this matter: that ALSA sequencer has a lot more sense in
scenarios like yours than Jack MIDI. ALSA sequencer provides sequencer
facilities (hence its name) and Jack MIDI does not. Among my own programs only
one of them, virtual MIDI piano keyboard, supports Jack MIDI as an option (it
is a real-time application with very limited requirements, this may change in
the future). But for any other MIDI application with sequencing functionality,
using Jack MIDI you will reinvent the wheel.

Jack MIDI looks like it had been conceived with the goal that Ardour become
the one and only sequencer application, and everybody else should write
plugins for it. That perhaps would make sense as a bussiness model, and if you
want to write a MIDI Synth or some MIDI realtime app complementary to Ardour,
Jack MIDI makes certainly more sense than anything else.

If you look for other MIDI sequencing applications in Linux, all of them use
ALSA sequencer: Rosegarden, Muse, Qtractor... There is one exception:
MuseScore is a score editor, with similar goals to yours. It started
supporting ALSA sequencer, but switched to Jack MIDI in Linux. It is very
popular... in Windows!
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mscore/files/mscore/stats/os?dates=2012...

Regards,
Pedro

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On Friday 15 February 2013 11:23:02 M Donalies wrote:

 
Maybe you already have read the propaganda, and came here honestly wondering about the truth behind it:
 
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/faq/start#qwhat_is_the_difference_between_jack-midi_and_alsa-midi
 
Jack MIDI comes to extend/replace ALSA MIDI. "Sadly," they currently co-exist.
 
 
I'm hated among Jack MIDI zealots in these lists, because I don't hesitate to voice my opinion in this matter: that ALSA sequencer has a lot more sense in scenarios like yours than Jack MIDI. ALSA sequencer provides sequencer facilities (hence its name) and Jack MIDI does not. Among my own programs only one of them, virtual MIDI piano keyboard, supports Jack MIDI as an option (it is a real-time application with very limited requirements, this may change in the future). But for any other MIDI application with sequencing functionality, using Jack MIDI you will reinvent the wheel.
 
Jack MIDI looks like it had been conceived with the goal that Ardour become the one and only sequencer application, and everybody else should write plugins for it. That perhaps would make sense as a bussiness model, and if you want to write a MIDI Synth or some MIDI realtime app complementary to Ardour, Jack MIDI makes certainly more sense than anything else.
 
If you look for other MIDI sequencing applications in Linux, all of them use ALSA sequencer: Rosegarden, Muse, Qtractor... There is one exception: MuseScore is a score editor, with similar goals to yours. It started supporting ALSA sequencer, but switched to Jack MIDI in Linux. It is very popular... in Windows!
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mscore/files/mscore/stats/os?dates=2012-01-01+to+2012-12-31
 
Regards,
Pedro
 
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