Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

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To: Florian Schirmer <florian.schirmer@...>
Cc: LAD <linux-audio-dev@...>
Date: Sunday, September 2, 2012 - 12:33 am

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Hi Florian,

Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the conversation.

I'm agreement with Alexandre Prokudine, a standalone JACK application for
32 bit and 64bit would cover 95% of the target audience.
Perhaps it would not afford entirely to my intended workflow with Kontact
(namely using as a plugin in Ardour3): but it would be a huge step forward.

Although a native VST would also be possible: I (speaking for myself, as
its a delicate topic) feel it is a step in the wrong direction. I'm
currently using LV2 as my main plugin platform: DSSI and LADSPA days are
(again in my opinion) over, while VST's license makes it a bad choice. LV2
is still an emerging plugin standard: But since it is extensible and can be
backwards compatible: I feel it is the future. It does involve learning a
new plugin "language", and due to its extensibility I have found it quite
hard to learn. That said I'm not a wizard coder, so it could be my own
personal learning curve I'm up against. Or most likely a bit of both.

I feel I should mention that although I would like to spend time to attempt
to realize a Linux version of Kontact, I do not have extensive experience
in the field of sample engines or porting software. That said, I'm all up
for learning :)

Looking forward to a response, -Harry

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Florian Schirmer <
florian.schirmer@native-instruments.de> wrote:

> Hi Harry,

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Hi Florian,Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the conversa=
tion.I'm agreement with Alexandre Prokudine, a standalone JACK =
application for 32 bit and 64bit would cover 95% of the target audience.
Perhaps it would not afford entirely to my intended workflow with Kontact (=
namely using as a plugin in Ardour3): but it would be a huge step forward.<=
br>Although a native VST would also be possible: I (speaking for myself=
, as its a delicate topic) feel it is a step in the wrong direction. I'=
m currently using LV2 as my main plugin platform: DSSI and LADSPA days are =
(again in my opinion) over, while VST's license makes it a bad choice. =
LV2 is still an emerging plugin standard: But since it is extensible and ca=
n be backwards compatible: I feel it is the future. It does involve learnin=
g a new plugin "language", and due to its extensibility I have fo=
und it quite hard to learn. That said I'm not a wizard coder, so it cou=
ld be my own personal learning curve I'm up against. Or most likely a b=
it of both.
I feel I should mention that although I would like to spend time to att=
empt to realize a Linux version of Kontact, I do not have extensive experie=
nce in the field of sample engines or porting software. That said, I'm =
all up for learning :)
Looking forward to a response, -HarryOn Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Florian Schirmer <florian.schirmer@native-instruments.de> wrote:
Hi Harry=
,i'm curious, what exactly would be the linux versi=
on of Kontakt? Kontakt VST for Linux? Standalone? DSSI? LV2?
What is necessary to cover 95% of the users?=
Thanks,=A0 =A0 FlorianOn 31.08.2012, at 15:43, Harry van Haaren <harryhaaren@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Nils &l=
t;
list@nilsgey.de&=
gt; wrote:

The direct and naive solution would be a reversed engineered kontakt sample=
engine, yes.
Very naive.The community could appro=
ach NI and ask if they're intrested in supporting a Linux version of Ko=
ntact? I volunteer to write the email, and if they laugh then what harm don=
e...

Opinions?
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Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Florian Schirmer, (Sat Sep 1, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Harry van Haaren, (Fri Aug 31, 1:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Florian Schirmer, (Sat Sep 1, 9:44 pm)
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