Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24) - Once again free samples, this time more uplifting

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From: Brett McCoy <idragosani@...>

To: Florian Schirmer <florian.schirmer@...>

Cc: <linux-audio-user@...>, LAD Developers Audio <linux-audio-dev@...>

Subject: Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24) - Once again free samples, this time more uplifting

Date: Saturday, September 1, 2012 - 10:34 pm

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Florian Schirmer
wrote:

> On 31.08.2012, at 02:06, Nils wrote:

quoted text

>
> Sadly many of those instruments are in .nki or .nk* format which is the
> Kontakt Player or Kontakt Something Fullversion format.
> The wave samples are (often? by design?) there as plain files, but it is
> hard work to guess how they should be arranged and what is needed. As far as
> I know the kontakt format has more features, such as scripting, than sfz,
> which is currently the "Linux sample flagship". I hope I am wrong here.
>
>
> No, you're correct. As i've written in my other mail to LAD, todays sample
> libraries are much more than samples and the respective mapping on keys /
> velocity layers. Scripting and all the advanced engine features is what
> makes the difference. Just extracting the samples and mapping information
> from a Kontakt library will end up in very disappointing results.

This is what we have discovered with free libraries like Sonatina --
the mappings are there but not much else (not even velocity layers),
many of the instruments don't even seem to work correctly with MIDI
CCs. They work OK in Linux Sampler, but are still pretty weak compared
to what is available commercially.

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[LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24) - Once ..., Nils, (Fri Aug 31, 12:06 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24) - O..., Florian Schirmer, (Sat Sep 1, 10:13 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24) - O..., Devin Anderson, (Sat Sep 1, 10:44 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24) - O..., Nils, (Sat Sep 1, 10:41 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24) - O..., Brett McCoy, (Sat Sep 1, 10:34 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), John Rigg, (Fri Aug 31, 9:03 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Emanuel Rumpf, (Sat Sep 1, 1:39 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Florian Schirmer, (Sat Sep 1, 9:05 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), John Rigg, (Sat Sep 1, 3:59 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Paul Davis, (Fri Aug 31, 11:58 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Nils, (Fri Aug 31, 12:03 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Harry van Haaren, (Fri Aug 31, 1:43 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Florian Schirmer, (Sat Sep 1, 9:44 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Nils, (Sun Sep 2, 12:59 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Harry van Haaren, (Sun Sep 2, 12:33 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sat Sep 1, 10:24 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Brett McCoy, (Sun Sep 2, 12:48 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Emanuel Rumpf, (Sat Sep 1, 12:34 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Harry van Haaren, (Sun Sep 2, 12:06 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Nils, (Sat Sep 1, 12:58 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sat Sep 1, 12:54 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Nils, (Fri Aug 31, 2:57 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), rosea.grammostola, (Fri Aug 31, 2:59 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Paul Davis, (Fri Aug 31, 3:27 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Harry van Haaren, (Fri Aug 31, 5:12 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Sep 1, 1:56 am)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Florian Schirmer, (Sat Sep 1, 9:35 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Alexandre Prokoudine, (Fri Aug 31, 3:36 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Joakim Hernberg, (Fri Aug 31, 2:47 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Florian Schirmer, (Sat Sep 1, 10:26 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Brett McCoy, (Sat Sep 1, 10:47 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), rosea.grammostola, (Fri Aug 31, 2:57 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Julien Claassen, (Fri Aug 31, 1:54 pm)

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24), Brett McCoy, (Fri Aug 31, 1:45 pm)