Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

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Date: Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 11:26 am

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2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola

> On 03/29/2012 01:16 PM, thijs van severen wrote:

true, but currently we dont have any overview at all
any tool is better than no tool, right ?

follow me on my Audio & Linux blog !

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2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola <rosea.grammostola@=
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On 03/29/2012 01:16 PM, thijs van severen wrote:

2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola <rosea.grammostola@gmail.com
<mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>>

=A0 =A0On 03/29/2012 12:29 PM, thijs van severen wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A02012/3/29 Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@gmail.com
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<mailto:louigi.verona@gmail.com>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<mailto:louigi.verona@gmail.__com <mailto:louigi.verona@gmail.co=
m
>>>

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0my 2 cents from user perspective: I know where I sa=
ve my
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0files, I know
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0where my sample collections are. i know that if i d=
elete my
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0sample
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0collection, sessions won't load. i don't ne=
ed any program to
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0tell me
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0that.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0in fact, in using FL Studio or Cubase or LMMS you h=
ave the same
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0situation. a project can use same files as another =
project
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0and if you
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0damage those files - well, sorry.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I do not see any reason for complications in sessio=
n manager
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0design. i
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0agree with david, all of this is unnecessary and on=
ly will
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0make NSM a
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0session manager developers would be reluctant to ad=
opt.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0louigi verona.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0On 3/29/12, rosea.grammostola <rosea.grammostola@gmail.com=

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<mailto:rosea.grammostola@__gmail.com
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<mailto:rosea.grammostola@gmail.com>>> wrote:<=
br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > On 03/24/2012 11:09 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >> 3. Clearly defining the way an app should behave =
w.r.t. its
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >> =A0 =A0 File menu entries (when managed). This is=
quite intrusive
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >> =A0 =A0 to existing clients, but it is IMHO absol=
utley essential.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >> =A0 =A0 Kudos to the designer(s) for the having t=
he courage to do
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >> =A0 =A0 this instead of allowing application deve=
lopers to take
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >> =A0 =A0 the 'least effort' way (which wou=
ld of course be better
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >> =A0 =A0 marketing, but invite later misery).
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > How easy or how difficult is it compared to JackSessi=
on for
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0example, to
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > add NSM support to an application?
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Is it possible to have NSM and JackSession support in=
one
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0application?
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Regards,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > \r

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0wasnt there a link somewhere in this mail thread about a
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0comparison of
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0all the pros and cons of 'all' SM's ?
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0i went trough the thread but could not find it =A0:-(
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ah well, maybe i'm just dreaming
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0would be nice though, such a comparison matrix

=A0 =A0Iirc it was just an idea to do make that. It doesn't exist yet.=

=A0 =A0An overview would be good imo. It would be even better if such a
=A0 =A0matrix could help in making a decision for the best SM API to
=A0 =A0support, at the moment. As a user who wants to use session API X, I=

=A0 =A0don't have much benefits if applications supports session API Y=
.
=A0 =A0Unless I decide to use Ladish, personally that wouldn't be my c=
hoice
=A0 =A0though.

IMHO making such a matrix is the only good way to make a decisions of
any kind
is there anyone that has already made a 'study' that could be used =
as
the basis of a comparison matrix ?

A matrix is nice for a quick overview, but for such a decision you need mor=
e in depth information and argumentation. A matrix could only function as a=
tool to help with the decision.true, but currently w=
e dont have any overview at all

any tool is better than no tool, right ?=A0fol=
low me on my=A0Audio & Linux blog !

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[LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 22, 10:55 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Thu Mar 22, 4:52 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 22, 6:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Thu Mar 22, 3:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Sat Mar 24, 3:19 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Fons Adriaensen, (Sat Mar 24, 10:09 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 29, 9:24 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Thu Mar 29, 1:18 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Louigi Verona, (Thu Mar 29, 10:02 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 29, 10:41 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 29, 11:08 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, thijs van severen, (Thu Mar 29, 10:30 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 29, 10:46 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, thijs van severen, (Thu Mar 29, 11:17 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Thu Mar 29, 2:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 29, 2:35 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 29, 11:21 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, thijs van severen, (Thu Mar 29, 11:26 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 29, 11:34 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Mon Mar 26, 3:42 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Louigi Verona, (Mon Mar 26, 3:51 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Mon Mar 26, 4:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Mar 26, 6:15 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Mar 26, 8:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Mon Mar 26, 9:47 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Wed Mar 28, 7:25 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, J. Liles, (Wed Mar 28, 8:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Wed Mar 28, 9:20 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Wed Mar 28, 9:28 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Mar 26, 9:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, J. Liles, (Tue Mar 27, 12:15 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Mar 27, 7:41 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Lieven Moors, (Wed Mar 28, 9:28 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Mar 28, 8:19 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Tue Mar 27, 8:45 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Mar 28, 1:28 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Wed Mar 28, 3:46 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Mar 28, 12:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Burkhard W├Âlfel, (Fri Mar 30, 2:46 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Fri Mar 30, 5:41 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Wed Mar 28, 5:26 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, thijs van severen, (Wed Mar 28, 1:36 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Renato, (Wed Mar 28, 4:35 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Wed Mar 28, 5:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Mar 28, 6:01 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Wed Mar 28, 6:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Thu Mar 29, 1:30 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Thu Mar 29, 6:21 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Mon Apr 2, 9:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Mar 28, 12:12 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Mar 26, 11:05 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Tue Mar 27, 1:23 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Tue Mar 27, 12:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Wed Mar 28, 3:43 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Wed Mar 28, 12:11 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Wed Mar 28, 5:01 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Mon Mar 26, 9:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, J. Liles, (Mon Mar 26, 7:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Louigi Verona, (Mon Mar 26, 4:21 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Mon Mar 26, 4:30 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Diego Simak, (Mon Mar 26, 8:17 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Emanuel Rumpf, (Mon Mar 26, 8:42 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Diego Simak, (Mon Mar 26, 9:39 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, thijs van severen, (Thu Mar 22, 11:59 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, David Robillard, (Thu Mar 22, 2:54 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 22, 12:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Harry van Haaren, (Thu Mar 22, 1:52 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 22, 3:43 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Tim E. Real, (Sun Mar 25, 7:35 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Mar 25, 10:44 am)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, thijs van severen, (Thu Mar 22, 12:57 pm)
Re: [LAD] Non Session Management, rosea.grammostola, (Thu Mar 22, 12:53 pm)