Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support

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To: Jörn Nettingsmeier <nettings@...>
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Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 - 10:40 am

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2011/7/4 J=F6rn Nettingsmeier

> On 07/04/2011 03:23 AM, Paul Davis wrote:

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With JackSession quite some drawbacks of JACK will be countered. It is / wa=
s
very user unfriendly to all the plumbing yourself again and again.

Anyway, we're getting a bit offtopic here. You might want to start a new
thread about the past and future of JACK and a plugin API (LV2)

Regards,
\r

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2011/7/4 J=F6rn Nettingsmeier <nettings@fo=
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On 07/04/2011 03:23 AM, Paul Davis wrote:

2011/7/3 Dave Phillips<dlphillips@woh.rr.com>:

J=F6rn Nettingsmeier wrote:

... none of the audio stuff i routinely do everyday would be possible
without jack.

Amen to that.

I disagree with both of you. I think what you really mean is "none of<=
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this would be possible without some system for interconnecting
processing elements together in flexible, creative,possibly
unanticipated ways that also leaves the developers of those elements
free to do things in their own way".

that much i'd agree with. but this is not a description that requires
that the solution be at the process level.

well, like ladspa, jack has its time and place, and it has triggered an ama=
zing surge of activity. to me, it's the best infrastructure in the mark=
et.
when it was conceived, there was no way to do what it does except at the pr=
ocess level. and now that we know how to combine multiple gui toolkits in a=
single process, it still looks very good.

and as long as jack keeps scaling over multiple cpu cores, we have cycles i=
n abundance - so where's the harm in some inter-process communication o=
verhead?

rather than lumping all audio into a single process, i'd say jack shoul=
d even strengthen the boundaries between processes, such that it doesn'=
t die as easily when a node in the graph goes bad, to make it even better s=
uited for live use than it already is.
With JackSession quite some drawbacks of JACK wi=
ll be countered. It is / was very user unfriendly to all the plumbing yours=
elf again and again.Anyway, we're getting a bit offtopic here. =
You might want to start a new thread about the past and future of JACK and =
a plugin API (LV2)
Regards,\r

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[LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Thu Jun 30, 9:03 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, m.wolkstein@gmx.de, (Sat Jul 2, 8:40 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Jul 3, 7:44 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Sun Jul 3, 9:10 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, m.wolkstein@gmx.de, (Sun Jul 3, 12:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, m.wolkstein@gmx.de, (Mon Jul 4, 10:15 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Tue Jul 5, 10:37 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Sat Jul 2, 9:02 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, m.wolkstein@gmx.de, (Sun Jul 3, 12:19 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Sun Jul 3, 9:58 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Sun Jul 3, 10:50 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Sat Jul 2, 10:27 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Sun Jul 10, 3:08 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jul 10, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Mon Jul 11, 8:49 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, m.wolkstein@gmx.de, (Sun Jul 10, 5:53 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Jul 10, 4:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Sun Jul 10, 5:44 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Gabriel Beddingfield, (Sun Jul 10, 4:21 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Sun Jul 3, 9:53 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jul 3, 11:43 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 12:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jul 3, 4:04 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 4:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jul 3, 8:14 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, James Morris, (Sun Jul 3, 8:21 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 8:20 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jul 3, 9:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Jul 3, 5:10 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 5:32 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Jul 4, 2:18 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Mon Jul 4, 4:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Jul 4, 6:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Sun Jul 3, 10:48 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Dave Phillips, (Sun Jul 3, 11:06 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Mon Jul 4, 1:23 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Tue Jul 5, 6:35 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Tue Jul 5, 10:40 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, michael noble, (Mon Jul 4, 3:10 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Devin Anderson, (Sun Jul 3, 7:59 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 8:07 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Devin Anderson, (Sun Jul 3, 9:33 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 9:42 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Devin Anderson, (Sun Jul 3, 10:38 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Sun Jul 3, 10:50 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Emanuel Rumpf, (Sun Jul 3, 6:27 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Robin Gareus, (Sun Jul 3, 12:51 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 1:01 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Robin Gareus, (Sun Jul 3, 1:20 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Paul Davis, (Sun Jul 3, 1:24 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, David Robillard, (Thu Jun 30, 4:20 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Thu Jun 30, 5:22 pm)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Thu Jun 30, 9:43 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, m.wolkstein@gmx.de, (Thu Jun 30, 10:01 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Thu Jun 30, 10:12 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, Dan Muresan, (Thu Jun 30, 11:13 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Thu Jun 30, 10:22 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, m.wolkstein@gmx.de, (Thu Jun 30, 11:13 am)
Re: [LAD] Feature requests: add JackSession support, rosea grammostola, (Thu Jun 30, 11:21 am)