On 2/23/11, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
>> > Example number one is the CUPS web interface, accessible using the
But it doesn't have to be a local system :)
>> > Besides that the interface is slow and buggy, despite running on the
I don't believe you did, the reason being -- you vote against the
whole web thing by providing examples of one bad web UI. How does this
one web UI affect other web UIs? Does it infect them fith influenza?
Do they cough and suck loads of throat sweets? :)
Can you remeber what Bill Gates said about Internet back in early 90s?
Can you remember what happened next? Do you close your eyes and
pretend not to hear anything when you keep seing new cloud computing
services popping up with a workiing business model behind them,
because they contradict your view of a perfect world to live in?
>> > The other example is google docs/spreadsheet which I have to use
No wait, you did say "google docs/spreadsheet" and then google is
suddenly not the topic? :)
Personally, I find the whole anticloud-computing thing highly exaggerated.
Google doesn't start new services, because they feel so charitable.
This is business. They justify cost of production, maintenance and
further development by having some business model behind every new
service. The same is valid for other companies. Storing your data in a
cloud is how it works.
Quite a number of modern hospitals have centralized data storage as
well. Doctors only need a tablet to access information from it when
they do their rounds in a shift. Would you resist being transferred to
such a hospital, because information will be centralized? Would you
request all the information to be erased when you leave (and all the
cookies wiped :))?
Privacy is a valid concern. Exxagerating it, however, rarely helps.
It's up to you if you want trading anything off. These days anyone can
do a personal cloud computng service for just him-/herself with as
much privacy as desired. And you don't even need cloud computing: the
whole SparkleShare thing that is essentially a Git wrapper was born
out of a will to control data instead of further relying on Dropbox.
>> So problem number four is that you have no idea whatsoever about
Then what is your point exactly? Because some web app developers don't
care about accessibility, let's dump the whole thing altogether?
> I tried it before writing my mail,
Wrong :) Web UI is about more things then just using different
systems. Collaboration is the first thing I can think of.
>> So the problem number five is being one of few hundred people around
Again, it's up to web developers how much efforts they put into making
their apps accessible.
> I'd rather like to see examples of good web UIs including an explanation
Well, I quite like Gmail + Google Talk. People laughed at me when I
said "how about mating mail and Jabber?". They stopped doing so a year
later when Google Talk was announced and made available. After that
there's no way I choose to go back to arbitrary Jabber address and an
offline mail client, not until I'm dragged kicking and screaming. I
can see why IMAP can still be preferred by many people, but there is
such a thing as "not my cup of tea". I see no reason whatsoever to
argue about that. It's up to me to decide what is usable for me,
likewise it's up to you to decide what is usable for you.
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