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> On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 00:41 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:

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>> Hey guys!

>> I have worked several years as a web developer and continue to create

>> personal projects actively.

>> What can I say - the web obviously has lots to offer. However, the

>> client-side has more promises than

>> actual accomplishments, especially when it comes to cross-browser

>> things.

>>

>> Want it or not, even jQuery has problems, especially on (you guessed

>> it) IE. The amount of hacks one needs

>> to put it to make even normal html look the same in FF and IE is

>> enormous. Experienced html guys might not

>> notice how much hacks they automatically put into the code.

>

> If you choose to care about IE, life is indeed going to be miserable.

>

> I certainly don't ;)

>

>> Not to mention the memory problem. Browsers simply cannot handle as

>> much memory as a desktop app can

>> and you never know if settings of the visitor of your web app will

>> allow him to not have his browser crash.

>>

>> As for graphics, each solution available today has loads of issues and

>> nothing I've seen is satisfactory. Google

>> stuff is interesting, but how lasting it will be - nobody knows.

>>

>> I would agree that the web has potential. I would agree that Java

>> failed as a dream of an ultimate platform for all.

>> But I would not agree that the web is there already today, nor that it

>> is close. In terms of actual interaction it is

>> very, very far away from what even a Java tool like Processing can

>> offer, not to mention all of Java.

>

> There seems to be the impression that I, or anyone, is arguing that

> absolutely every UI ever is best implemented in the browser.  Of course,

> not, that's silly.

>

> But most audio control UIs are quite simple.  All we need is a couple of

> sliders and knobs and such.  It's quite straight forward and perfectly

> appropriate.  Transport controls, faders, knobs, XY pads, step

> sequencing, toggles, all that kind of stuff.  Having remote controls and

> plugin UIs and such in the browser would be awesome, and it's not

> anywhere near the realm of things too large to be feasible, or too

> complicated to be portable (even to that atrocity you mentioned).

>

Does html5 support JACK yet? That will be nice.
> If you need very high performance realtime visualization or whatever,

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> sure, dont use the browser.  Duh.

>

With html5 support for opengl this is actually decent on new browsers.
> Put differently: nobody is going to be rewriting the main Ardour UI in

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> Javascript any time soon - but it would make a great control surface.

>

> -dr

>

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