Re: [LAD] "bleeding edge html5" has interesting Audio APIs

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Date: Monday, November 21, 2011 - 9:15 pm

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> Subject: RE: [LAD] "bleeding edge html5" has interesting Audio APIs

> From: d@drobilla.net

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I think I missed the point so this response might also miss the mark. This =
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cow means I will probably get serious gut ache if I eat it.

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given problem. Does one size now fit simply because everybody has some kind=
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browser? Availability has nothing to do with applicability to a solution.

> Plus=2C the same UI works on any PC=2C iOS=2C blackberry=2C etc.

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r flash. Hoping=20
that it works in your browser is just pushing a lot of effort back onto the=
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developer. This mish-mash of languages just about seems to work for the
web because the websites want to get exposure to everybody so it is totally=
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their interest to work in all the different browser configurations (includi=
ng text=20
based ones for example). It might not work so well for applications that ar=
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after universal exposure or that want to be used for what they are - appli=
cations
and not web pages.

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not mean you have to support nails. Screws will still always have a use but
people may just have to get a driver from somewhere to use them.

Nick. =

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&gt=3B Subject: RE: [LAD] "bleeding edge html5" has interesting Audio APIs<=
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&gt=3B From: d@drobilla.net&gt=3B As for UIs=2C there is precisely one =
"platform" available by default on&gt=3B almost all devices: the browse=
r. Period.&gt=3B &gt=3B How much a bunch of Unix curmudgeons or Ja=
va fans dislike that fact&gt=3B doesn't change it=2C any more than me d=
isliking blue changes the colour of&gt=3B the sky.
I think I missed the point so this response might also miss the mark. This =
has nothing to do with blue skies. Green grass is also everywhere but n=
ot being acow means I will probably get serious gut ache if I eat it.Liking/disliking Java or browsers does not really bear on their appli=
cability to any given problem. Does one size now fit simply because eve=
rybody has some kind ofbrowser? Availability has nothing to do with app=
licability to a solution.&gt=3B Plus=2C the same UI works on any PC=
=2C iOS=2C blackberry=2C etc.That is also a bit of a longshot. Web =
content is as volatile as any programinglanguage=2C now its java applet=
s=2C javascript=2C or html4=2C or html5=2C or flash. Hoping that it wor=
ks in your browser is just pushing a lot of effort back onto the develo=
per. This mish-mash of languages just about seems to work for theweb be=
cause the websites want to get exposure to everybody so it is totally in their interest to work in all the different browser configurations (inclu=
ding text based ones for example). It might not work so well for applic=
ations that are notafter universal exposure or that want to be used for=
what they&nbsp=3B are - applicationsand not web pages.What I a=
m trying to say is that just because every system has a hammer does not=
mean you have to support nails. Screws will still always have a use butpeople may just have to get a driver from somewhere to use them.Ni=
ck.
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